Talon

Noruas · Post by **Noruas** » 11 Sep 2006, 03:00

Let me clarify it, it runs over dead things, spring engine wont allow it to run over alive things, and in the video, it was rolling over 100 corpses i think.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 11 Sep 2006, 04:16

Noruas wrote:My favorite part out of the whole video is at 28 seconds, where if u look to the directly above the moble fortress, an Ak is doing 7 flips after barely hitting the ground. I guess i could try putting an invisible close range laser that kills everything small and close enough to the big bulldozer blade in the front.

I saw that XD

hrmph · Post by **hrmph** » 03 Dec 2006, 20:06

*Bump* Sorry I just got done reading the talon thread over at TAU and had to bump this up. Is foe in charge of converting it over to spring? Has any progress been made?

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 03 Dec 2006, 21:09

Why haven't I seen this thread before that's pretty awesome.

Noruas wrote:Let me clarify it, it runs over dead things, spring engine wont allow it to run over alive things, and in the video, it was rolling over 100 corpses i think.

Actually it is possible now to script this "run over alive things" by detonating a weapon in front of the unit when it moves. Think of zwzsg's Fat Shrew (this six legged monstrosity) which uses fast vlaunch weapons to simulate stomping, except that you can detonate them right at the target instead.

bwansy · Post by **bwansy** » 03 Dec 2006, 21:37

Where can I download it?

Strategia · Post by **Strategia** » 03 Dec 2006, 21:42

bwansy wrote:Where can I download it?

+1

Noruas · Post by **Noruas** » 03 Dec 2006, 22:10

the talon race is almost done for ota engine, so that will obviously come out first, the entire race is almost finished, so it might not be much longer, or it could be, depending if xta needs more serious work. besides, i am still thinking about what to do since talon buildtree dosent really fit xta, nor aa, and i cannot make up another ota rip off. i just dont want to do a stand alone race of itself.

hrmph · Post by **hrmph** » 03 Dec 2006, 22:15

That is a good question... I suggest releasing a few versions with the installer. Just a stand-alone Talon only version. Also talon in AA and also talon in XTA. What I think would be the best solution is finding another high quality copyright free race to include with it.

pintle · Post by **pintle** » 03 Dec 2006, 23:13

call me crazy......

Talon vs Nanoblobs

Is there any way this could be remotely balanced/made playable?

bwansy · Post by **bwansy** » 03 Dec 2006, 23:51

Even more crazy:
Arm x Core x TLL x Rhyoss x Mynn x Talon

It would be nice to actually put them all together, but balancing would require a tremendous amount of work, if it's even possible.

AF · Post by AF » 04 Dec 2006, 00:35

not mynn, not untill thats been fixed up properly.

TLL + Talon should be easy, adding in rhyoss later on would be the easiest thing todo. I would oppose adding Arm and Core for legal reasons, and if I were to add a 4th race it wouldnt be Mynn but rather Rumad or even Argon or The joined tribe.

bwansy · Post by **bwansy** » 04 Dec 2006, 01:33

Is Mynn that bad? Actually, I've never tried Mynn before. My idea is to put all the completed races together, and I didn't mean to specifically point out these 6 races. I am glad you say that putting these races together is actually an easy task.

AF · Post by AF » 04 Dec 2006, 01:55

mynn isnt very pretty and has a lot of errors in models and scripts.

Whereas TLL is working pretty much perfectly, and Rhyoss works for the most part, perhaps the odd unit weapon doesnt fire and the commander crashes the engine trying to transform into a hover on water (fixed by noruas I believe).

bwansy · Post by **bwansy** » 04 Dec 2006, 02:33

AF wrote:mynn isnt very pretty and has a lot of errors in models and scripts.

I see.

AF wrote:the commander crashes the engine trying to transform into a hover on water (fixed by noruas I believe).

So that's why it always crashed when I ordered my commander to build a shipyard.

PauloMorfeo · Post by **PauloMorfeo** » 04 Dec 2006, 07:00

Noruas wrote:... talon buildtree dosent really fit xta, nor aa, ...

How is the build tree of Talon?

Noruas · Post by **Noruas** » 06 Dec 2006, 01:32

Build Tree is like this:
Commander builds Air, Hover, Tank, and Infantry.
Air builds lvl 2 air, Hover builds lvl 2 Hover, and Tank build lvl 2 Tank.
I think Tank can also build the moble fortress factory now. We also have submarine pens now. No Kbots!

Ok.. OK... Level 1 sea, Level 2 sea, Seaplane platform like ota.

PauloMorfeo · Post by **PauloMorfeo** » 06 Dec 2006, 13:22

That is almost exactly like oTA!? So i don't understand why it wouldn't fit XTA or AA... Or watever for that matter, with obvious adjustments. Unless you mean that adjustments to the build tree are out of the question?

Anyway, even without adjustments to the buildtree, it seems to fit XvM, AA, oTA, TLL (just not XTA)...

Noruas · Post by **Noruas** » 06 Dec 2006, 22:47

Not enough units for AA, are you crazy!

Strategia · Post by **Strategia** » 07 Dec 2006, 10:45

You don't need enough units. You have the Abaddon

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 07 Dec 2006, 11:11

I think it would be amazingly fun to see in AA.

Spring RTS Engine

Talon

Re: hmm