Second E&E copyright discussion split

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 09 May 2006, 06:02

yeah, those code bits above are some of the "hooks" I was speaking about.. the whole bugger and required state..

oh, btw the rest(outside of hooks) of my mod was hand written from scratch then I based the remaining codes off of the scratch written code. I have said this before.

either way. IF I can get the time I can help you replace bits later but that is a lot of work and I will be doing more projects as time goes on. IF you get someone who will vollunteer to learn scripting and you know he WILL stick to it I will help him as much as I can.

DeathHawk · Post by **DeathHawk** » 09 May 2006, 07:13

ok i have to ask this ...Spring is now stand alone and is running Content from Total Annihilation Right? So how is that Legal exactly

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 09 May 2006, 07:23

omfg, stfu noob.... that is what I wanted to say.

We are trying to establish where the line is so we can ensure more mods are not on that grey line. Right now spring utilizes a lot of OTA content but we are starting to replace all that shit. Why are you coming in here asking about that. Christ, get with the program we have already discussed that part. THIS THREAD is about scripts, we have already established the obvious stuff. However, it is good to know you are captain obvious lord of the repetitve.

AND FYI my mod is freed of ota content in the next release. so guess what... it will be legal as far as copied shit. I cannot sell it because it is copyright bandai but at least I am distributing my own work.

Egarwaen · Post by **Egarwaen** » 09 May 2006, 17:08

smoth wrote:AND FYI my mod is freed of ota content in the next release. so guess what... it will be legal as far as copied shit. I cannot sell it because it is copyright bandai but at least I am distributing my own work.

Sweetness.

Post by **Tim Blokdijk** » 09 May 2006, 23:23

Let me drop in here to

First things first, it's copyright not copywrite people.

Mynn has been sold via ebay.
Cavedog did not publicly respond to this but they were aware of the Mynn mod.
This legacy gives Mynn vs. Xect quite a solid legal base.
The sole creator publicly released the mod under the GPL.

From a legal point of view Mynn vs. Xect is a very intresting mod to have around.

DeathHawk · Post by **DeathHawk** » 10 May 2006, 01:42

smoth wrote:omfg, stfu noob.... that is what I wanted to say.

We are trying to establish where the line is so we can ensure more mods are not on that grey line. Right now spring utilizes a lot of OTA content but we are starting to replace all that shit. Why are you coming in here asking about that. Christ, get with the program we have already discussed that part. THIS THREAD is about scripts, we have already established the obvious stuff. However, it is good to know you are captain obvious lord of the repetitve.

AND FYI my mod is freed of ota content in the next release. so guess what... it will be legal as far as copied shit. I cannot sell it because it is copyright bandai but at least I am distributing my own work.

a simple answer would of been better instead of being a FUCKTART!!!!!

BigSteve · Post by **BigSteve** » 10 May 2006, 01:52

Somebody finally said it ^^ woohoo!
1-0 to deathhawk :)

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 10 May 2006, 02:00

DeathHawk wrote:a simple answer would of been better instead of being a FUCKTART!!!!!

it is fucktard... at least get your derogatory statement right... and you asked a stupid question.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 10 May 2006, 02:01

BigSteve wrote:Somebody finally said it ^^ woohoo!
1-0 to deathhawk :)

steve = -1 cool points

BigSteve · Post by **BigSteve** » 10 May 2006, 02:12

boo frickety hoo ^^
what is a cool point by the way?
Tell me and then get back to the subject of the thread :)

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 10 May 2006, 02:18

BigSteve wrote:boo frickety hoo ^^
what is a cool point by the way?
Tell me and then get back to the subject of the thread :)

in other words my opinion of you is less. You could at least back someone who:
A: knows how to spell their insult
B: knows what the hell they are talking about

Back to the thread... because you and deathhawk decided to derail it....

I find it amusing that XECT VS MYNN caused this big stink but cavedog did nothing so it is somehow more legal then many mods that are considerate of the community.

DeathHawk · Post by **DeathHawk** » 10 May 2006, 02:21

there is no cool point to it all i did was ask a simple question then this Dickhead had to go all berzerk i mean Geez take a chill pill all you had to do was give me a simple answer then it would of been over finish goodbye But No!!!! Smoth had to go and make a big scene of it.

There is no point in argueing with someone whos obviastly into pigs with Dressses because its just a bloody waste of time.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 10 May 2006, 02:32

DeathHawk wrote:there is no cool point to it all i did was ask a simple question then this Dickhead had to go all berzerk i mean Geez take a chill pill all you had to do was give me a simple answer then it would of been over finish goodbye But No!!!! Smoth had to go and make a big scene of it.

There is no point in argueing with someone whos obviastly into pigs with Dressses because its just a bloody waste of time.

could you at least halfway attempt to spellcheck your post. As far as I can see I am pretty calm. You are the one flying off the hitch here. I do not see why you are spazzing out so bad that you have lost the ability to spell correctly.

I do find it terribly amusing that you continue to fail at dialogue.

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 10 May 2006, 03:20

It seems to me that EE is in the clear, for the time being. The thing we are all worrying our selves into a frazzle...oh wait the thing SOME people are worrying THEM selves into a frazzle over is a very minute possibility of being a problem now. How many play EE?

How many of those people are lawyers?

How many of those, increasingly hypothetical lawyers, work for Atari?

How many of these Atari employed lawyers are ALSO scriptors?

How many of these incredibly unlikely scriptors are going to go through the code of EE and say "Hey! This was copied from OUR program!" then go rattle to their boss and sue EE.

Now if all those happen, then we need a clean room situation. Or whatever its called.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 10 May 2006, 03:25

it was said earlier but I will repeat it...

Spring gets put on a distro... EE is with it...

That distro gets sold...

lawsuit possible if there is stolen content.

We are discussing that thing grey line and whether or not it even applies to scripts.

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 10 May 2006, 03:28

Well from what i've seen it looks to my, admittedly untrained eye, that scripts for a game that is LIKE TA need to also have scripts that are LIKE Ta. I think any good lawyer could keep that up in court, and repeatedly point out how the main things are the art files, the model files and the sound effects. Because, really, thats what is the most important.

PS: What the hell is a 'distro'?

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 10 May 2006, 05:31

distro==distribution

Candleman · Post by **Candleman** » 10 May 2006, 05:35

DeathHawk wrote: ... with someone whos obviastly into pigs with Dressses...

Heh, another penny for Smoth.

DeathHawk · Post by **DeathHawk** » 10 May 2006, 08:46

Yeah my spelling goes shit when i gets the flu but oh well who cares

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 10 May 2006, 09:02

Death, I can't blame smoth for his reaction. That was a blatantly stupid question. Have you ever played xta and aa in spring? Notice some similarities?

Spring RTS Engine

Second E&E copyright discussion split