Win 8

[PicassoCT]

I would never invest any emotions into any company at all, as even superior design is just the work of people in said company, and if people leave and theta-join, you just incested your heart to a a juristic person.

Just look at quality/price ratio, and look ahead, how you can keep the market open by buying from smaller competitors. Always remember when bitching about differing standards and tech-issues, that the alternative is a chain-gang- you certainly will fit in somehow, and everything will work together smothly, because frankly you have no choice of direction anyway.

[dimm]

For those people who are like "It's just a phone......". It's not just a phone.

Why not a netbook? Why a Fancy Phone?

[AF]

There's a rather nice chart showing Apple having price points for their devices at $50 intervals starting from ~$50 all the way to ~$900

Also as I have said multiple times, I don't buy my music via iTunes, none of my 'stuff' is stuck in the Apple ecosystem, and I can do plenty of things on my iPhone, and if I jailbreak it I can do even more, but I have no need for jailbreaking it at the moment.

If I bought an Android phone tomorrow, I could quite happily be up and running with all my photos, music, contacts, email, etc within minutes. If there is any ecosystem I would have trouble extricating myself form it's actually the Google ecosystem, not the Apple ecosystem. the thought of extricating myself from Google Apps/Mail is painful.

My entire toolchain is opensource ( my only barrier to full platform agnosticism is a lack of Internet explorer and visual studio outside of windows, & Adobes lack of Photoshop/Fireworks for Linux ).


Not to mention that as a professional web developer, I need to have a wide selection of platforms to work with. Buying completely and solely into the Apple ecosystem would have a real impact on my ability to do my job, as would ignoring it.


omg I wrote this post in Windows on non-Apple hardware, I must be such a fanboi

[knorke]

I would never invest any emotions into any company at all, as even superior design is just the work of people in said company, and if people leave and theta-join, you just incested your heart to a a juristic person.

Sport fans stay with their club even if players leave. They proudly stay fans even if their team plays bad.
The trick is to create the same connection between costumers and company.

[gajop]

Sport fans stay with their club even if players leave. They proudly stay fans even if their team plays bad.
The trick is to create the same connection between costumers and company.

It's different, sport fans (and that's really probably just football/basketball fans) stay fans without being pressured (well perhaps pride and low IQ).

On the other hand, software/hardware companies (as far as personal use goes, mostly Apple and Microsoft, but Facebook and even Google and Amazon recently) create "fans" by building hardware and software that isn't compatible with other vendors. The users then gradually become "fans", because they don't want to lose all their existing software/hardware as it would be incompatible with a different vendor. And since people don't want to feel bad, they often defend the vendor that's locking them in, saying how great it is and how glad they're to stick with it.

Just don't buy DRM/vendor lock-in hardware/software. It's even better to pirate if no FOSS/DRM-less stuff exists.

[PicassoCT]

[Forboding Angel]

For those people who are like "It's just a phone......". It's not just a phone.

Why not a netbook? Why a Fancy Phone?

Because netbooks were always destined to be a failure and the hardware is extremely weak. A chromebook would make more sense if you wanted a small laptop.

A 10" tablet makes the most sense.

If you want an iPhone you don't get a choice between varying price models of the same thing with different specs.

having fewer different models simplifies production and keeps the price lower.

That isn't true. As a correlation, there are tons of android phones with roughly the same specs but slightly different and at different prices. That is competition and gives you choice.

Having the choice between iphone 4, 4s, and 5 made by one company at set prices is not choice.

Also as I have said multiple times, I don't buy my music via iTunes, none of my 'stuff' is stuck in the Apple ecosystem...

You are the exception. Smart move.

This is absolutely the truth. The only reason I will buy music from google play is because I can then dl the mp3s drm free. If it weren't for that I would be very much against it.

In fact originally I was every bit as much against Google Play Music as I was against iTunes, but then I found that it didn't lock down or restrict your music. At that point my stance softened.

[Jools]

I have only bought one CD from iTunes. After a new harddrive and OS when I forgot to back up the iTunes library I lost it. I contacted Apple and they agreed to send it to me once more, "but only because we are being nice". Anyway, it would be much faster and easier to grab it from a torrent instead.

Btw, Itunes only allows you to authorise 5 computers. With a dual boot desktop, laptop, work, desktops at parents I'm already up to 5. I agree that buying music from there makes no sense. Besides: they have maybe 25% of the music compared to p2p sites.

[AF]

Oh for the good ol days before grooveshark nuked the Chrome download extension

[PicassoCT]

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Nucular Truthlaunch detected


http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... CMP=twt_gu

[Jools]

avoid non prime-number windowses

:)

so 3 and 7 it is?

What do you mean? Prime number is a number that's divisible only by 1 and itself, so we have:

2, 3, 5 and 7 so far. I guess there was no windows 2, but windows 5 is NT right?

[Cubex]

Wiki tolds me another story
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_2.0

[Jools]

Cool, i never saw it.

Also windows 5 is windows 2000: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_5.0

But that wasn't very good. It was xp that was the good one (windows 5.1).

[zerver]

windows 2000 ... But that wasn't very good. It was xp that was the good one.

Windows 2000 was imo much better than XP, mainly because it was the last version before M$ switched the desktop/explorer from a professional look to something that is designed for a kindergartener. Yeah, you can tweak XP so it looks almost as good as 2000, but you never get all the way.

After 2000, the server editions of windows are the ones that get the closest in terms of professional look.

Windows 7 has a more powerful explorer, although far less intuitive. Windows 8 is a huge step up in terms of kindergarten design, but can maybe be tweaked to be almost as good as win 7.
http://www.eatliver.com/i.php?n=9031
http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2012/06 ... -smallest/

[PicassoCT]

Actually, the windows i want, is the one that starts with a powerfull default, and then allows you to completely customize it via script..

Its not the one you want..we all want a diffrent windows..
I m allready suprised when i see someone else doing the powerpoint.. how many people organise there desktops so diffrentish..

What it needs most of all is some for non coders intuitive batch & makro system. Sort of a "AutomizeTheLast5 Steps I did" button..

[varikonniemi]

Windows 8 is a total disaster that fortunately can be modified to be "Windows 7 SP2"

I was actually most impressed with the new file copy dialog. It is actually the best copy dialog of any OS i have seen.

[PicassoCT]

it still sucks. The opt would be to start copy & Rename in background, and undo it if you should choose otherwise.

[Jools]

windows 2000 ... But that wasn't very good. It was xp that was the good one.

Windows 2000 was imo much better than XP, mainly because it was the last version before M$ switched the desktop/explorer from a professional look to something that is designed for a kindergartener. Yeah, you can tweak XP so it looks almost as good as 2000, but you never get all the way.

I had to think what you mean, but yes, you are right. The default desktop/explorer in XP is that ridiculously ugly blue one right? The thing is, I have *never* used that. The XP:s I still use have a customised UI, done with nLite. Same goes for start menu, the 'classic' one is the best.

Actually windows 7 has that search box in it, so it's even better, but otherwise i prefer the 'classic' one. But I had forgotten it's from windows 2000.

Otherwise I think Aurum is a nice visual style for XP:

http://desktopthemes.co/aurum-windows-xp-visual-style

[luckywaldo7]

It might be misleading to compare the quality of windows releases by their current state of hacky 3rd party support.

On release, XP was known by most as a 'bloated piece of eyecandy'. Everyone forgot later though because Vista fitted that description even so much better.

[gajop]

XP was a pretty good release and it wasn't all that bloated coming from Win 98 2nd edition.
I feel more bloat and performance hit came from the XP -> 7 switch which I think didn't give as much.
On the other hand, Millennium, Vista and 8 on the other hand aren't even improvements imo.