Some finnish music - Amorphis

[SirArtturi]

Classical music is a genre of music, certain instruments and composition styles, it doesnt have to do anything with the word "classic" necessarily

Oh yes, you are right. That is one very straightforward definition.
Lol, you win...

[TradeMark]

, even though we finns are widely respected in metal music field and therefore I as a finn should be a big time fan of this field.

yeah, i hate it when people think i listen to metal when i tell im from finland... kinda same as saying black persons niggers. i feel insulted.

nothing that really makes me want to listen to them over and over again.

yeah, i agree metal music is quite boring, you can listen it once or two but no more...

[Gota]

its not really like saying nigger to a black person though...

[Gota]

>implying the phantom of the opera is not a quality production

I love Phantom of the Opera. It's one of my favorite musical productions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yarYjuN- ... re=related

this is brilliant
to think it was made in 1975..

[TradeMark]

its not really like saying nigger to a black person though...

yeah it is.

[Gota]

its not really like saying nigger to a black person though...

yeah it is.

I'd compare it with assuming a black person listens to rap music.

[knorke]

its not really like saying nigger to a black person though...

yeah it is.

I'd compare it with assuming a black person listens to rap music.

how about some nigger rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTjKWq9Gges

[TradeMark]

its not really like saying nigger to a black person though...

yeah it is.

I'd compare it with assuming a black person listens to rap music.

you just dont get it.

[Forboding Angel]

nothing that really makes me want to listen to them over and over again.

yeah, i agree metal music is quite boring, you can listen it once or two but no more...

I understand the sarcasm, but I love metal

@siratturi, one thing to understand about music in general. The more technical a song is, generally the worse it is. In music you have to use the KISS (keep it simple stupid) method. Classical is an entirely different method and operates under different rules from anything else.

In KISS, lets use blues as an example:
Blues you will hear the same riff over and over and over in different songs and different artists. Why? Because it's catchy, it's fun, and everyone in their right mind likes the blues to some extent.

Rock and metal follow different rules, and that is not to copy riffs from other artists (still happens though, (look at godsmack, they've released the same album in different forms x amount of times - the only songs that sound remotely different from any others is Whatever, voodoo and serenity) in different shapes and forms), but the overall drive is to create something original and catches the attention and keeps the listener captivated.

Amorphis only vaguely catches my attention in the fact that it's pretty (and from a technical standpoint I really like the music), but the songs go in no defined direction. Some people like that (I'm not super picky about it myself, but I do see things for what they are generally). The majority of the population don't, which is why mainstream music is what it is.

[knorke]

Wrong. Just look at classic concert ticket prices, high prices are only natural when you have to pay a whole orchestra but it is a barrier.

_classic_ concert... Umm... not only classic concerts are expensive, but all these big pop celebrities are pulling off quite high prices too. I really cant see the distinction. As this argument is not relevant since records are still sold averagely same price and as you said, interent and spotify has come to us. Imo that is pretty boundarybreaking.

Yes, of course Madonna or even ACDC have sky high prices.
150Ôé¼ for one evening seems to be the norm. Crazy.
But for example Trouble & Pentagram was 18Ôé¼ (still alot for me, 20 is my limit for concerts) and I would consider these band really legendary, same level as Black Sabbath.
I googled a bit and even some "casual concert" orchester thing already starts at 30Ôé¼, for more well known stuff its in the 150Ôé¼ range and you would probally need correct dressing.

Even if I am no fan of classic, a good full orchester with choir might at least be impressive.
Would you rather listen to some youtube link using laptop speakers or to this:

Now imagine a giant concert hall with cool architecture, lightning etc...

Rock and metal follow different rules, and that is not to copy riffs from other artists [...]the overall drive is to create something original and catches the attention and keeps the listener captivated.

Uhm, not sure. Tons of bands borrow from Black Sabbath, many bands sound like Amebix, Hellhammer, Venom or early Bolt Thrower.
Thats ok, not every song has to be super creative.

Amorphis only vaguely catches my attention in the fact that it's pretty (and from a technical standpoint I really like the music), but the songs go in no defined direction.

I see what you mean. A little bit more "pop" and they would drift into the Nightwish ( ) area. Not as "raw" as some others, but imo nice for a change.

I think todays mainstream music is so popular because it is made in a way to sound good on the car radio, played from crappy handy speakers etc. or low volume tv in the background. Most music would just get lost or sound like noise but popopopopopopokerface gets through.

Also most people listen to radio maybe 30 minutes a day when driving to work. In this time they want to hear some news, something old from the 80s, the newest hit and then maybe something funny.
So if radio program is made to meet these needs, no wonder it sucks?

Actually I would not be so bad if they would not play the same fucking songs all the time. "Umbrella ella ella" or "i've got a feeling tonights gonna be a good good night" would be so gay if they the song rotation was better. Did these artists never do any other songs?
But no, the same song must be played over and over to get it into the single charts. When its on position 1, it will be played more. omg.
Even "rock" (often called "classic rock", what a stupid name) seems to consider of "smoke on the water" and "eye of the tiger" and nothing else. WTF.

[Forboding Angel]

Ok make note that when I say mainstream music, i'm talking only about rock and metal. Pop and hip-hop stations have the weirdest rotations I have ever seen and manage to make little to 0 sense.

pop and hip-hop generate lots of hype over a song by replaying it 50 billion times in 2 months. The problem is that that strategy is a double edged sword because the song is no longer popular a month or two down the line.

Rock rotations tend to make a lot more sense in most cases.

[knorke]

wait, you actually do have rock stations, hip hop stations and such?
like in the gta games? talking about real radio stations, not internet.

in germany every station is "the best of today and the hits of tommorrow" or something.
BFBS (actually its british but yeah) plays some electronic dj sets or something during the night but thats it.

[Forboding Angel]

wait, you actually do have rock stations, hip hop stations and such?
like in the gta games? talking about real radio stations, not internet.

Yep

Click link to listen live: http://www2.989therock.com/function-menu#

If that link doesn't work for you, just go here: http://www.989therock.com/ and click "Listen Live".

[knorke]

omg.
pretty mainstream metal but not bad.
in germany no radiostation would EVER play Pantera.
so if you think your radio sucks, well yeah...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcHN5h519e4

if you have a radio alarm clock, its best to turn it to noise.

[Neddie]

>implying the phantom of the opera is not a quality production

I love Phantom of the Opera. It's one of my favorite musical productions.

I didn't imply it wasn't a quality production. I implied that these people are probably not listening to it with any regularity, though the recorded form is one of the hundred best selling albums of all time.