The Next Big Bang?

[smoth]

krystal is nice like that.

[Spawn_Retard]

because your post seemed ill-informed with a lot of assumptions. Knowing her she was probably trying to give you some information.

That's right.

Stop treating trolls like real people.

i take offence to that, we are real people.
Not our fault we live under bridges.

[TradeMark]

fucking racists

we're lucky we got obama on our side

because your post seemed ill-informed with a lot of assumptions. Knowing her she was probably trying to give you some information.

are you stupid? of course it was assumptions, you guys think i am some book of fact...

and by knowing the current science, they are also just assumpting everything, they dont really know for sure anything.

just because someone wrote a book doesnt mean everything they wrote is true fact. they are constantly changing their facts every year.

[PicassoCT]

Yeah, why stay in the waste of time. So if i got it right, the brain and its surrounding "microuniverse" - we blind fools still just call it bodys, are a way more complexer maschine, not so easy to wear down like a comp, also lacking most of the standards machines have (including no directx) - having also the advantages of not beeing so easily affected by massphenomenas like meme-viruses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W32/Simile). Still, after taking into account the various symbionts, feedbacks of organs (and the stomagereplys, which strange but true are getting into everyones brains, and only make a showup, when they are missing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirschsprung%27s_disease ) still after mental diseases, and thinking about the complexity of society (which not nessesarily benefits from a wetwiring- just think of the intertubes, you spend time like you have all the world in it, get nearly nothing than abstract attention for it - and of curse the whailing mob that is humanitys essence if you just switch of social controlls (so trollz are one of the biggest arguments against wetwiring - i m in your brain raging) still, after all this counterpoints, ghost in the shell was a excellent movie and wet wiring will be a point in one of the paths humanity will split during its evolution. I hope they dont want to instantgib those Staybehinders, lesser humans, not part of the awesomness that is mindgroupsex all lifetime long.

I would prefer it, if those first wetwired nerds stayed a experiment contained on a small island first, to see where it all went, if the outcoming Entity would recognise the benefits to itself if it from time to time release its parts into seperate lifes. Do Borg Queens dream of disassembling Cubes? Also, why wetwire something, you can have slower (and safter) as a smartphone on your noose or in your hand? Anybody used the wiki in your hand already?

Also Trademark calm down, there is a Intertubes support team on its way to serve you Valeriana-tea and cookies to calm the rage. If you dont calm down, you will be temporarily banned from the wetwiredweb to face the grim reality - just one word. DIAPERS.

NEUROMODERATION (NEDDIE just bigger), seeing into your mind doesent like what it find. Change yourself, or we will vote of a re-write I think that was Pandas point, if i deduce it right.

[TradeMark]

yeah you got it right, it will result in even more asslicking society

[Spawn_Retard]

i thought asslicking was part of the clause you had to agree to to join spring.

[PicassoCT]

deeper, deeper, yes, stay that way, tickling, ohooh thats great. Spring now comes with choclate isse cream - so stop complaining.

[Gota]

[Panda]

because your post seemed ill-informed with a lot of assumptions. Knowing her she was probably trying to give you some information.

are you stupid? of course it was assumptions, you guys think i am some book of fact...

and by knowing the current science, they are also just assumpting everything, they dont really know for sure anything.

just because someone wrote a book doesnt mean everything they wrote is true fact. they are constantly changing their facts every year.

No one is is saying that everything that they wrote is true fact. The stuff that I pointed out is reasonable and the information about neurons and genes being turned on and off can be directly observed under a microscope. What you appear to have difficulty understanding is how the brain is different than a computer and I just I just told you, and gave you quality examples of how it is different. But, at any rate, forget about it. I'm sure that you have lost interest by now.

Also Trademark calm down, there is a Intertubes support team on its way to serve you Valeriana-tea and cookies to calm the rage. If you dont calm down, you will be temporarily banned from the wetwiredweb to face the grim reality - just one word. DIAPERS.

NEUROMODERATION (NEDDIE just bigger), seeing into your mind doesent like what it find. Change yourself, or we will vote of a re-write I think that was Pandas point, if i deduce it right.

My point was that the brain is a living thing (meaning that it functions like a living organism and not a computer), an organ, and, unlike a computer network, that "the way in which it works" emerges after all of the processes of brain function are put together. If you needed them, examples of theses smaller brain processes were already stated in my previous post.

[PicassoCT]

If machines started to learn to built themselves, is a cpu than not the central organ of a silicon based lifeform? I understand that somebody who is a expert cant stand information on his subject beeing ripped out of context, but here the intertubes have the tl,dr problem, most of the people wouldnt read posts if they were properly footnoted and taking every important fact into account.

Which is by the way another counter argument to wetwiring brains together, to long thought didnt read, i and the other guy found out that we could form a excellent barbershop chorus, so we abandoned that intellectual stuff, as the majority of the I-omnibrain-comunity declared it too booooorrrringalingadindong.

Also music to derail discussion and annoy serious posters and trolls alike:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssCh7psK6fM#

[SinbadEV]

one little fun thought experiment is that one could conceive of AIs being given hooks such that if could see and hear and smell using a "virtual bodys" withing a "virtual world", and if it chose to open up the heads of other vitual bodies withing this virtual world, they would see a brain composed of neurons etc... just because we perceive something doesn't mean it's necessarily true... or does it? for those AIs, the truth of their existence would be reality within their perspectives.

Also, I think that the concept of the brain as a network being compared to a computer is wrong, but being compared to something like the internet is a lot more accurate... a million computers sending, receiving, ignoring, accepting and interpreting different types of packages of data in diverse interpretations of the same protocols.

[TradeMark]

Also, I think that the concept of the brain as a network being compared to a computer is wrong, but being compared to something like the internet is a lot more accurate... a million computers sending, receiving, ignoring, accepting and interpreting different types of packages of data in diverse interpretations of the same protocols.

yeah isnt that what i said at the first place

earth is just a big brain.

[SinbadEV]

Also, I think that the concept of the brain as a network being compared to a computer is wrong, but being compared to something like the internet is a lot more accurate... a million computers sending, receiving, ignoring, accepting and interpreting different types of packages of data in diverse interpretations of the same protocols.

yeah isnt that what i said at the first place

Probably, Maybe you weren't clear enough.

[Spawn_Retard]

i think sinbad is a AI, a poorly written one.

[Panda]

Also, I think that the concept of the brain as a network being compared to a computer is wrong, but being compared to something like the internet is a lot more accurate... a million computers sending, receiving, ignoring, accepting and interpreting different types of packages of data in diverse interpretations of the same protocols.

yeah isnt that what i said at the first place

earth is just a big brain.

TradeMark and Sinbad, I just wanted to let you know that you two make an adorable couple and that I am supportive of your feelings towards one another. I think that Picasso might have to stay out of that one. Just don't make any yaoi videos, ok? Sinbad you might have to remind TradeMark about that. I know that you must be one of those people who goes for the whole, "I'm a dumb blond. Help me! Baw, I don't like it when someone disagrees with me." look.

If machines started to learn to built themselves, is a cpu than not the central organ of a silicon based lifeform? I understand that somebody who is a expert cant stand information on his subject beeing ripped out of context, but here the intertubes have the tl,dr problem, most of the people wouldnt read posts if they were properly footnoted and taking every important fact into account.

Which is by the way another counter argument to wetwiring brains together, to long thought didnt read, i and the other guy found out that we could form a excellent barbershop chorus, so we abandoned that intellectual stuff, as the majority of the I-omnibrain-comunity declared it too booooorrrringalingadindong.

Also music to derail discussion and annoy serious posters and trolls alike:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssCh7psK6fM#

I hope you find a nun and she swats you across the knuckles for being an genuine ass-kisser and expecting others to be entertaining when not everyone on the spring forum is an attention whore and when a discussion often involves having to making counterpoints. Crap does indeed come in all forms and and it's a biohazard.

[TradeMark]

i think Panda and Picasso fits together better, they both make absolutely no sense at all.

[SinbadEV]

i think Panda and Picasso fits together better, they both make absolutely no sense at all.

nah... chicks just don't know how to post on/read forums right.

my wife is constantly complaining irl about all the drama on her forums for example... I mean... like... you're doing it wrong, eh?


huh... PicassoCT might be a chick...

[Forboding Angel]

[Spawn_Retard]

i wish i was on the political wheel of fortune.

[Teutooni]

Human brain may be a complex living organ now, with every piece needed for the whole to be of much use, but it evolved from much simpler systems. These simpler systems are not unlike AI's we have now - they react to input in a predictable way.

Philosophically speaking, I think that's what humans do too - only with so complex interaction patterns that we can not comprehend it fully. If you are given a choice, will you always choose the same way with the same information you had while first making that decision?