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New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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oh god put the hat away >.< someone is going to get hurt
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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I tried it. It's definetly awesome. Best looking map ever.
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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Beherith, we found you.

Apophis contains a gadget overriding CA's windmill control.
--Sorry CA, this map has NO wind ever
--Please dont start a lua war over this, and do NOT use this as casus belli to allow mod override of map lua.
--By using wind on this map (even solar wind or interstellar wind) you are in violation of the license of this map.
--Cheers: Beherith
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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The exact license is not mentioned anywhere.
--Please dont start a lua war over this, and do NOT use this as casus belli to allow mod override of map lua.
This was on spring road map even before you made those maps.
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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Lol, thats silly. Map is map, you cannot tell mod how to play it. Its as stupid as Sena's maps that override mod.

We will soon need "special" mods that override maps! For example you could host DSD and it will be speedmetal instead!

Eventually, all games will be called BA special DSD special and this will increase diversity of both maps and mods!
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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Licho wrote:We will soon need "special" mods that override maps! For example you could host DSD and it will be speedmetal instead!
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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Eheh, <3 yall :)

As I said, no wind on apophis please. License is: you may play/use this map for whatever you would like as long as wind generators output 0 energy.
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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But did you know they plan to move Apophis course by the power of solar winds possibly?
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Beherith wrote:As I said, no wind on apophis please. License is: you may play/use this map for whatever you would like as long as wind generators output 0 energy.
So we can modify that map and release under a new name. Good news.
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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SirMaverick wrote:
Beherith wrote:As I said, no wind on apophis please. License is: you may play/use this map for whatever you would like as long as wind generators output 0 energy.
So we can modify that map and release under a new name. Good news.
Sure you can, just make sure wind is 0.
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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Licho wrote:Lol, thats silly. Map is map, you cannot tell mod how to play it. Its as stupid as Sena's maps that override mod.

We will soon need "special" mods that override maps! For example you could host DSD and it will be speedmetal instead!

Eventually, all games will be called BA special DSD special and this will increase diversity of both maps and mods!
Your analogy is flawed, me doing this is a direct result of mods trying to override maps. Map is map, you cannot have a mod trying to tell a map how to play it.

If a mod doesnt play well/like you want it on a map, then choose a different map. There are 1000 other very fine spring maps out there just begging to be played.
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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GPL map is GPL (and code must be GPL), therefore you do not get the right to assign what can and cannot change on it.

Map is the canvas, mod is the paint.

Edit: And moreover, a gadget specifically to override a mod's wind controls is nothing short of childish.
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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Where do you see this map as gpl? I never released it as such.
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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Official stance on how the engine's license affects content wrote:We believe generally all LUA, COB, BOS scripts are "linking" to the engine, to speak in the terms of the GPL again. In practice this means many LUA, COB and BOS scripts need to be licensed under the terms of the GNU GPL.
Only your artwork can be released under a differing license. Artwork being models textures, map texture, sounds, etc.

You didn't honestly think that that only applied to mods did you?
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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Note: many!=all
q.e.d.

And my wind script really doesnt link to the engine, it contains no code just comments.
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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Beherith wrote:Eheh, <3 yall :)

As I said, no wind on apophis please. License is: you may play/use this map for whatever you would like as long as wind generators output 0 energy.
Sorry but CA's licence says that winds must make modoptions value of energy on any map!

Your map breached CA's license I'm going to sue you now. You will have to pay damages to all players who suffered energy loss on your map.
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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Licho wrote:
Beherith wrote:Eheh, <3 yall :)

As I said, no wind on apophis please. License is: you may play/use this map for whatever you would like as long as wind generators output 0 energy.
Sorry but CA's licence says that winds must make modoptions value of energy on any map!

Your map breached CA's license I'm going to sue you now. You will have to pay damages to all players who suffered energy loss on your map.
Just as with lua, map licence overrides mod licence. kthxbai.
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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Those units (nicknamed Wind Generators) are powered by the flow of tiny electro-leprechauns. The flow of these leprechauns varies in direction and current.
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Re: New Asteroid Map: Apophis v2

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Beherith wrote:Just as with lua, map licence overrides mod licence. kthxbai.
LOLWUT?!?

Who died and gave you that kind of authority? Fuck a bunch of that bullshit.
Beherith wrote:And my wind script really doesn't link to the engine, it contains no code just comments.
It directly changes an engine parameter. No matter how you want to cut it, that is linking.
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