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Never happened to me
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Am I on to something here? Am I actually getting it? XD
Yes. Sorry, must've screwed up saving, after flipping that :oops: But yeah, that's what needed to be done, in a nutshell.
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Ok, I think I can fix this myself. Thanks muchly Argh.

EDIT/UPDATE: Ive got the soft shading thing fixed, but I wanted to know. How do you / what settings do you use to export / convert dds textures? Ive tried using both my gimp's DDS plugin and exporting through upspring directly, but they all come out too lossy.
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I use the free nvidia plugin for photoshop.
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I use 8888 (basically, raw). Oh, and don't forget to make all mipmaps, Spring gets unhappy if you try and define a lower number than max.
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DXTBmp!
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I found the magic formula for the GIMP DDS plugin. Ill do some tweaks to the texture and upload a v2.
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Kaine do you use dds for your textures?
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Well, I guess I do now. Though this is my first and only texture.

(For now :-) )
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V2 up. See first post.
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much better.

Now that I can see the edges properly, can I suggest baking in some occlusion on the inward-facing edges?
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Well I was planning on moving on to my metal storage texture in progress, but If I need to change it enough to warrant a new update, I will do so. :wink:

Thanks though.
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Yeah, maybe move on to a new unit. I'd say that texx is maybe 85% done, but it still looks heaps better then what was there before. You can always come back to it.

Lots of 85% finished textures > one or two perfect textures
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Is it mostly the preshading that's holding it back from perfect? I wasn't really sure what I was doing in that area, and the metal storage is a more complex mesh so I'm having trouble preshading it as well. Do you have any pointers regarding preshading perhaps?
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Well, it depends on what you're struggling with.

Basically for preshading you need to think about the light source.

In the energy storage it's a little complicated because you've created your own light source on top of the sun. It' sunlikely that this lightsource would outpower the sun except for very close surfaces, so a bit of baked-in bloom, and putting a tinge of the glow colour onto surfaces facing the model-light is sufficient.

For everything else, you need to light as if the light source is coming from above - so all top faces are brighter, all semi-facing faces are mid-tones, and all hidden faces are darker.

This also means that highlights should only be put on edges facing the sky. Don't forget to not make highlights just lines - real metal highlights are speckled.

Finally, you want to include some baked-in ambient occlusion. What this means practically is that you need to darken edges where two faces meet, as well as between the bottom of the model and the ground.
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Note how in that pic the far corner is darker, even though it is technically facing the lightsource in the same way as the rest of the wall.

Edit: Seeing as it's been asked, no, I had nothing to do with that image, I just found it on google image search.
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Good stuff Zsinj! That clears things up for me regarding preshading. Thanks again.
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