I had a whole flamey post hueg like xbox planned out but then i forgot it. That said, screw you!jK wrote:A lot of ppl spend hundreds of hours into the spring engine code and you don't want to make your <12h content public (or only limited) available?
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Well, you're all scum sucking thieves using scripts and/or ideas that're based off of the general values and ideas presented in TA (and now SupCom) to begin with, so you can all take a flying leap. How many of you don't use nanolathing in your "original" mods? Kthx.
Given the number of people freely playing TA mods on Spring who've never owned a copy of TA to begin with, I can't imagine where this concern for intellectual property's sprung up from. Hope none of you intellectual property hypocrits have ever touched a torrent. 0o
Anyway, the presumption that any of you've come up with any original code that on its own or in any given context is commercially viable to the point that even if you lawyered up (which you can't afford) there would be any kind of value created or lost by its use in Spring sufficient to constitute "damages" that you could dream to recover is so absurd as to be worthy only of what it's getting - a "lol" on a message board that maybe 200 people ever bother to look at, and even most of them infrequently.
Perhaps you're all due rights to intellectual property that you create. Perhaps any form of generosity even in a free-spirited open source project such as Spring is unwarrented in this dog-eat-dog world. Perhaps, even given the shady path that Spring by default treads in this area, you can get away with limited use of copyrighted content of your own by citing "engine limitations." This:
Honestly, I don't know how you silly forum monkeys get along without me. =)
*Note to all those who allow free use of the content they create: you're still cool, even though you should probably spend more time playing and less getting stressed. Thanks.
*Note to Sleksa: all of you Finns are communists anyway, aren't you? Who're you to talk about letting people keep their incomes? ~~
*Note to smoth: you're actually in the weakest position to complain of all. Exactly how much GUNDAM intellectual property do you have the rights to? The anime, and its images, are ALL copyrighted, and here you go making models off of them to distribute to whoever you please. Even the sounds you use are copyrighted. Ugh. =.=
Given the number of people freely playing TA mods on Spring who've never owned a copy of TA to begin with, I can't imagine where this concern for intellectual property's sprung up from. Hope none of you intellectual property hypocrits have ever touched a torrent. 0o
Anyway, the presumption that any of you've come up with any original code that on its own or in any given context is commercially viable to the point that even if you lawyered up (which you can't afford) there would be any kind of value created or lost by its use in Spring sufficient to constitute "damages" that you could dream to recover is so absurd as to be worthy only of what it's getting - a "lol" on a message board that maybe 200 people ever bother to look at, and even most of them infrequently.
Perhaps you're all due rights to intellectual property that you create. Perhaps any form of generosity even in a free-spirited open source project such as Spring is unwarrented in this dog-eat-dog world. Perhaps, even given the shady path that Spring by default treads in this area, you can get away with limited use of copyrighted content of your own by citing "engine limitations." This:
is still the mark of an asshat. ggPersonally I am terrified of using anything Argh does or did because he uses GPL on everything. He nearly destroyed E&E (actually, in a way he did, really) Because E&E used some of his GPL script, which then smoth spent all night helping fang completely rewrite everything.
Honestly, I don't know how you silly forum monkeys get along without me. =)
*Note to all those who allow free use of the content they create: you're still cool, even though you should probably spend more time playing and less getting stressed. Thanks.
*Note to Sleksa: all of you Finns are communists anyway, aren't you? Who're you to talk about letting people keep their incomes? ~~
*Note to smoth: you're actually in the weakest position to complain of all. Exactly how much GUNDAM intellectual property do you have the rights to? The anime, and its images, are ALL copyrighted, and here you go making models off of them to distribute to whoever you please. Even the sounds you use are copyrighted. Ugh. =.=
Did he ask the creators for use of the base content, neddie, or did he just take with both hands while their backs were turned? Is the word "Xynthion" (or however you spell it ~~) that he uses something that smoth made up, or copyrighted?
You haven't got big enough shoes to step on my toes, neddie, but thanks for playing. =)
You haven't got big enough shoes to step on my toes, neddie, but thanks for playing. =)
Lets see, outside of 3 sounds all the sounds were made by me in software I legitimately own... photoshop, goldwave, I own them. that nice machinegun sound is completely synthesized.Tired wrote: *Note to smoth: you're actually in the weakest position to complain of all. Exactly how much GUNDAM intellectual property do you have the rights to? The anime, and its images, are ALL copyrighted, and here you go making models off of them to distribute to whoever you please. Even the sounds you use are copyrighted. Ugh. =.=
All of the effects were had drawn and scripted by me! So they belong to me... funny that I gave them away...
Secondly my FANART BELONGS to me. I make every acknowledgment that the gundam concepts etc are copyright bandai sunrise etc you illiterate git. so you can go eat a penis and like it However, I am not using ART from the anime, all of the art work in gundam RTS was hand drawn. Meaning the fan art is mine. All of my reference materials anime etc were all legitimately purchased as well. So you know what end of a horse's anatomy to shove your face.
of course outside of your blatant trolling what purpose do you have? why don't you go make something on your own.. oh wait you have no talent.
I never asserted that he did seek legal rights to use the base content. I merely clarified points that your admittedly hilarious post missed or presented incorrectly.
Smoth no doubt considers Gundam RTS to be a fan project, that is to say, something which lies in grey legal territory as the Japanese copyright holders have no interest in pursuing it. You'll have to ask him for a better explanation.
Smoth no doubt considers Gundam RTS to be a fan project, that is to say, something which lies in grey legal territory as the Japanese copyright holders have no interest in pursuing it. You'll have to ask him for a better explanation.
Well of course they hold no interest in pursuing him because his content is commercially worthless. If he ever made anything marketable (which he won't because he doesn't know how), then they'd cease and desist and then sue the pants off of him. Whole argument's ridiculous to begin with, though. As for missing points, I feel no obligation to fill in the gaps for arguments to be used against me. If people can't pull that off for themselves then they shouldn't expect mercy. =)
Smoth, you made the sounds. The WORDS that you used in those sounds were copyrighted. Please try to keep up at least a little. ~~
Smoth, you made the sounds. The WORDS that you used in those sounds were copyrighted. Please try to keep up at least a little. ~~
It is fanart... of course what would tired know, he has a case of fatal cranial rectitus.... oh lets see here.. in the past 10 years NO GUNDAM MOD has been stoped and they were published in magazine... wait I have explained this all but tired being the illiterate retard that he is could not read it.
If he knew any of his history he would know that gundam century was actually sold on the black market and the maker tried to strike a deal with bandai/blizzard to sell it. Which bandai basically ignored.. that is right.. a gundam rts in production and the maker contacted bandai never to recieve a word.
of course you would know this you asinine little moron if you read the many many many times I have said it. In fact to memory I can clearly state this is the third time I have had to explain it. Of course I am still 900X safer then the ta projects all using directly stolen content. Of course you ignore that fact and just attack me because sand is in your vagina today.
If he knew any of his history he would know that gundam century was actually sold on the black market and the maker tried to strike a deal with bandai/blizzard to sell it. Which bandai basically ignored.. that is right.. a gundam rts in production and the maker contacted bandai never to recieve a word.
of course you would know this you asinine little moron if you read the many many many times I have said it. In fact to memory I can clearly state this is the third time I have had to explain it. Of course I am still 900X safer then the ta projects all using directly stolen content. Of course you ignore that fact and just attack me because sand is in your vagina today.
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Fucking idiot. Read up on Bandai's OFFICIAL position on Fan Made content. YOu are completely off base and 100% out of line.Tired wrote:Well of course they hold no interest in pursuing him because his content is commercially worthless. If he ever made anything marketable (which he won't because he doesn't know how), then they'd cease and desist and then sue the pants off of him. Whole argument's ridiculous to begin with, though. As for missing points, I feel no obligation to fill in the gaps for arguments to be used against me. If people can't pull that off for themselves then they shouldn't expect mercy. =)
Smoth, you made the sounds. The WORDS that you used in those sounds were copyrighted. Please try to keep up at least a little. ~~
this is basically saying that smoth's 3 year long work is <12h scribble?A lot of ppl spend hundreds of hours into the spring engine code and you don't want to make your <12h content public (or only limited) available?
i dont want to ask you everytime i want to "loan" or "modify" your car?I don't want to ask each time the author, if I can use his model or if I want to modify the texture a bit etc.
oh smoth is greedy because he wont give up his work for you to rape and call your own? ok.
And it isn't that you want to earn money with your work, you only don't want to that other ppl use 'your' work as they want. Imo this is greedy ...
Whine, whine. You all would be less girly about your emotions if you developed some confidence in yourselves. Learn to play the game and join those silly BA Ladders or something. Come in 50th place, but have fun!
Not that I'm really bothering to read any of that btw, smothers, but your insults are much too wordy. Try to be more concise. =)
Not that I'm really bothering to read any of that btw, smothers, but your insults are much too wordy. Try to be more concise. =)
