Samson is useful. People have been saying that even with a "counter unit" that the samson is OP. So lets look at what can "counter" the samson shall we? Flash/gator is possibly the best, the most common spammed vehicle... this is not some weird/never-built unit people!!! Stumpy/raider's do very well against samson as well, so they work well as a counter too. Heck, given the samson's crappy DPS and average move-rate, most things that are faster (and many that aren't) can eat them for breakfast.
So, build units. Pretty much anything. Theres your samson counter. In fact, it would be a much shorter list if I showed units that did NOT counter the samson. Jeffy/Weasel, eraser, etc.
Now at least, if you just spam llts with your nice little aggressive com, there is a cheap counter. A few samsons. Yay. Now the comm will need unit support. Go figure.
Before this version, in almost every single 1v1 (of the good players), nobody built any samsons. Since the new revision, i've seen a few ppl who make some(Most still don't build them). Now, IMO, they have a viable use.
I could go on, but I won't. Anyhow, the next complainer...Please come play Sleksa/Day/Andy/Myself/etc, and abuse samsons. Please. If you win, i'll vote that their OP. OKies?
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i'll restate; i fully appreciate anyone donating their valuable time to work on a mod. BA at this point probably has untold amounts of hours of work put into it. I thank you for it. its better than alot of games i've paid $ for. i was just offering an opinion.
to Sleksa:
is english your second language or are you just retarded? i never said TA:BA should be based on real life. i said "... i would suppose real life ..." and "reality based". not exactly demanding statements for real life in my TA:BA. Age of Mythology has double headed dung beetles (or whatever). i have no idea what a unit like that is supposed to do in AoM, short of reading the manual. however, TA IS REALITY BASED. tanks are tanks, and kbots are infantry. kbots have a tendency to climb steep hills, hhmm... like the infantry. tanks have treads, armour, and have a big gun on a turrent, hhhhmm... like the M1 abrams.
real life sucks Sleksa. you wonder if you're gonna make your next house payment and paris hilton gets outa jail. keep real life outa my TA. and i'm sure the next guy that gets shot with a real life AK-47 will think "wow, that bullet was fast! sure glad it wasn't as fast as a laser" and i'm sure the next guy that gets his legs crushed by a M1 abrams will think "wow, that really hurt! o well, could be worse, i could of been ran over by a Bulldog".
PS i dont need to close a forum post with "GG" because you are a dumbass
to Sleksa:
is english your second language or are you just retarded? i never said TA:BA should be based on real life. i said "... i would suppose real life ..." and "reality based". not exactly demanding statements for real life in my TA:BA. Age of Mythology has double headed dung beetles (or whatever). i have no idea what a unit like that is supposed to do in AoM, short of reading the manual. however, TA IS REALITY BASED. tanks are tanks, and kbots are infantry. kbots have a tendency to climb steep hills, hhmm... like the infantry. tanks have treads, armour, and have a big gun on a turrent, hhhhmm... like the M1 abrams.
real life sucks Sleksa. you wonder if you're gonna make your next house payment and paris hilton gets outa jail. keep real life outa my TA. and i'm sure the next guy that gets shot with a real life AK-47 will think "wow, that bullet was fast! sure glad it wasn't as fast as a laser" and i'm sure the next guy that gets his legs crushed by a M1 abrams will think "wow, that really hurt! o well, could be worse, i could of been ran over by a Bulldog".
PS i dont need to close a forum post with "GG" because you are a dumbass
doublepost gg t.t
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carpja: I come from finland and swedish is a secondary language here, after finnish, which is my natural language
we do learn english at school, and im sorry if you cannot make anything out of it. But i have been able to communicate normally with 95% of the other community, This should show something about your mental capacities rather than mine =))
BACK ON TOPIC
The slasher was buffed from unkown reason but it is not imba unless proven. Provide replays 'n stuff to us and well take a look at the situation instead of just going "WAAAAAH ;_;" behind your monitors <3<3<3
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carpja: I come from finland and swedish is a secondary language here, after finnish, which is my natural language
we do learn english at school, and im sorry if you cannot make anything out of it. But i have been able to communicate normally with 95% of the other community, This should show something about your mental capacities rather than mine =))
BACK ON TOPIC
The slasher was buffed from unkown reason but it is not imba unless proven. Provide replays 'n stuff to us and well take a look at the situation instead of just going "WAAAAAH ;_;" behind your monitors <3<3<3
Alright guys I've just played a short game that proves slashsers/samsons are not op. please take a quick look:
http://replays.unknown-files.net/replay.php?id=242
http://replays.unknown-files.net/replay.php?id=242
Be civil. I leave to drive home from work, and everybody starts ripping out the language slurs. I don't care what your point is, or who you are, if you can't say it with respect, don't say it.
Can't watch it now, Jack, but I will. No doubt it will be within acceptable parameters for the game, and we can drop this whole silly business.
Can't watch it now, Jack, but I will. No doubt it will be within acceptable parameters for the game, and we can drop this whole silly business.
well maybe you should read someones post a little closer before you go on a 5 paragraph rant with all caps. i do however accept your all caps admission of my wisdom. maybee my insults will be acceptable if i put little "/flame/" things around my word stuff.
we can all discuss with civility missle trucks and game mechanics, but when someone (oh i dont know, like Sleksa) uses the word "you" and throws around insults, it makes it personal. which i dont want, because i dont make assumptions about people i've never met (unlike Sleksa, keeper of the "/flame").
i apologize for the english remark. i wish i would of said "barely read". i was only implying Sleksa cant or doesnt read, but now i realize Sleksa just uses "selective reading". i could care less what country you come from or how you like your eggs. i will not assume anything about you, but i guess you'll make idiotic assumptions about people you dont even know.
now THAT is sad.
its just a game fokker. dont be sad. and then after chastising me for using a calculator (which i didnt) Sleksa brings up "turning radius". hypocrisy is a bitch!"sorry carpja, but people like you who talk without actually doing nothing else but looking at the numbers with a calculator make me really, really sad. =( "
- Sleksa, acknowledger of carpja's wisdom.
we can all discuss with civility missle trucks and game mechanics, but when someone (oh i dont know, like Sleksa) uses the word "you" and throws around insults, it makes it personal. which i dont want, because i dont make assumptions about people i've never met (unlike Sleksa, keeper of the "/flame").
i apologize for the english remark. i wish i would of said "barely read". i was only implying Sleksa cant or doesnt read, but now i realize Sleksa just uses "selective reading". i could care less what country you come from or how you like your eggs. i will not assume anything about you, but i guess you'll make idiotic assumptions about people you dont even know.
now THAT is sad.
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[ we can all discuss with civility missle trucks and game mechanics, but when someone (oh i dont know, like Sleksa) uses the word "you" and throws around insults, it makes it personal. which i dont want, because i dont make assumptions about people i've never met (unlike Sleksa, keeper of the "/flame"). ]
i dont care who you are or where you come from, making retarded statements without any back-up evidence and using your calculator(intution?)
Prove these things. Play, show me replays. i dont use selective reading , i just get stuck with the most retarded statements that i see and flame :}
i make assumptions on people i have never met by the way they talk.
Someone who've ive never heard of or played in spring or in ba comes off into the forums without any knowlege other than the changes mentioned in the logs, and cries about the balance changes, is bound to be
a) newbie
b) isaac
c) just plain retarded
I have 100% confidence in the best spring player making the balance for the game. And tbh i'd always rather see a team of good players making the balance rather than someone with a calculator.
you dont care about me carpja, but i care about your skill level or experience in ota and spring, for my eyes you are a forum noob with 1-3 chevs worth playtime, if you feel insulted, please: play me, play daywalker, play randy or anyone else , please spam the slashers, spread the replay and humiliate me. otherwise your just sitting there and being a hater :]
Kingraptor: <3 , im wondering why warriors got buffed too :{
i dont care who you are or where you come from, making retarded statements without any back-up evidence and using your calculator(intution?)
Prove these things. Play, show me replays. i dont use selective reading , i just get stuck with the most retarded statements that i see and flame :}
i make assumptions on people i have never met by the way they talk.
Someone who've ive never heard of or played in spring or in ba comes off into the forums without any knowlege other than the changes mentioned in the logs, and cries about the balance changes, is bound to be
a) newbie
b) isaac
c) just plain retarded
I have 100% confidence in the best spring player making the balance for the game. And tbh i'd always rather see a team of good players making the balance rather than someone with a calculator.
you dont care about me carpja, but i care about your skill level or experience in ota and spring, for my eyes you are a forum noob with 1-3 chevs worth playtime, if you feel insulted, please: play me, play daywalker, play randy or anyone else , please spam the slashers, spread the replay and humiliate me. otherwise your just sitting there and being a hater :]
Kingraptor: <3 , im wondering why warriors got buffed too :{
