Upspring 1.54

Warlord Zsinj · Post by **Warlord Zsinj** » 24 Jun 2007, 14:50

Needed to dig this up to redownload the latest upspring. I suggest it be stickied, or otherwise be linked too in a clear modding tools post that is updated with this (apologies if this is already in existence).

FLOZi · Post by **FLOZi** » 03 Jul 2007, 15:45

One last minor complaint - models exported for UVmapping or saved as OBJ or 3DS lose there smoothing, which is a bit annoying if you are combining two s3os together, as you have to re-weld the one you are adding in.

Guessmyname · Post by **Guessmyname** » 03 Jul 2007, 16:04

Warlord Zsinj wrote:Needed to dig this up to redownload the latest upspring. I suggest it be stickied, or otherwise be linked too in a clear modding tools post that is updated with this (apologies if this is already in existence).

http://spring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3114

Post by **jcnossen** » 03 Jul 2007, 16:17

yeah i modified it, should've posted here though

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 03 Jul 2007, 17:32

When I use objs that include normals calculated in Blender the resulting model won't light properly (the normals seem to be zero or very close to it) until the normals are recomputed. I mean, it's not bad for the loli mod but I'm not sure if it's the intended behaviour.

FLOZi · Post by **FLOZi** » 03 Jul 2007, 23:10

Only an issue if you don't export the vertex normals into the obj

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 31 Jul 2007, 16:15

Actually it's only an issue if I DO export the vertex normals...

Anyway, Smoth found out that the normals are crippled by scaling. Please give us a renormalize normals button (since recompute will kill our hard edges).

Oh and for peet's sake don't make it mandatory on each transformation, I quite like the result the bug gives for stuff that should look celshaded.

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 03 Oct 2007, 19:28

When hiding the grid the light source gets offset by a fair amount (probably to the center). It's kind of annoying because I'd rather leave the grid hidden and use shading to see the glow map working.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 03 Oct 2007, 22:21

This reminds me to ask again about renormalize vertex normals and apply scaling/rotation.

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 07 Oct 2007, 21:03

++ to Rattle and KDR's bug reports. Especially the normals bug. I'm a huge fan of using the recalculate normals stuff to put sharp edges on things, or smooth things, though, so please don't break that, it's been working great since 1.54 and I love it

Also:

1. Could it please add the file extensions to files, when saving? Having to type it manually every time is annoying.

2. Could it maybe save the last-used directory for Unittextures? I have to set it manually every time I use it.

3. It doesn't support DDS DXT5 or DXT1 correctly as Texture1. Draws black. If you want examples, I can make you one. Spring supports both just fine, so this is a very minor quibble.

Post by **jcnossen** » 11 Oct 2007, 00:10

Unfortunately im very busy with real life stuff.
That and ofcourse, polygon smothing will have priority when it comes to upspring

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 11 Oct 2007, 01:09

Smoth my polygons up! :P

Good to hear that you're sound and alive.

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 16 Nov 2007, 03:58

Resizing has an inverted effect on normals...

Post by **jcnossen** » 16 Nov 2007, 13:21

Isnt there a renormalize normals function?

AF · Post by AF » 16 Nov 2007, 18:11

I think the point is that it shouldn't be needed.

For example, when making a piece of toast, the toaster slices your toast into a thousand pieces.

To fix the toaster do you:

A) Use the built in glue gun to re-assemble your toast after its made every time

or

B) Remove the slicer

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 16 Nov 2007, 18:14

jcnossen wrote:Isnt there a renormalize normals function?

If there is I can't find it.

Post by **jcnossen** » 16 Nov 2007, 21:17

I think the point is that it shouldn't be needed.

For example, when making a piece of toast, the toaster slices your toast into a thousand pieces.

To fix the toaster do you:

A) Use the built in glue gun to re-assemble your toast after its made every time

or

B) Remove the slicer

people dont like smartasses

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 16 Nov 2007, 21:31

There are several functions to rebuild normals, however they all break my smoothing groups.

AF · Post by AF » 16 Nov 2007, 21:39

jelmer, if someone trips on their shoelace, and jokes about it when theyget up, do you smile or do you call them a smartass? Do they punch you in the face afterwards for it?

tombom · Post by **tombom** » 16 Nov 2007, 21:41

AF wrote:jelmer, if someone trips on their shoelace, and jokes about it when theyget up, do you smile or do you call them a smartass? Do they punch you in the face afterwards for it?

Your analogies are really awful. That doesn't even apply.

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