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rcdraco · Post by **rcdraco** » 06 Oct 2007, 23:46

I have a question, is there a combine objects feature in upspring? I made a mistake in Wings, and now I have way too many objects. Also, is there a way to sort the objects and link them to other objects? Such as:

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[Base]
  |
  |---[Gun]
  |    |
  |  [Barrel]
  |
  |---[Tred]

Peet · Post by **Peet** » 06 Oct 2007, 23:48

Take 2 minutes to look through all the menus and buttons? Seriously..

rcdraco · Post by **rcdraco** » 06 Oct 2007, 23:53

Thanks Peet, that helped. As with most problems, it would've been better not to ask.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 11 Oct 2007, 03:58

Halp, I R doin it wrong...

I can't get the 15 infantry I want to be transported to get their lazy bums in the vehicle...

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	TransportCapacity=15;
	TransportMass=2500;
	TransportSize=2;

What do I need besides this?

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 11 Oct 2007, 07:49

Why's TransportCapacity not in the changelog?

Your script is probably messed up or your soldiers are fat americans which exceed the mass limit. :P

rcdraco · Post by **rcdraco** » 11 Oct 2007, 19:26

This might help a lot for you:

These are loaded by the engine:

transportcapacity - Max units
TransportMass - Max weight the transport holds.
transportsize - that is the Max X, and Max Z of units it picks up.

I think you're over the max transport size, 2x2 is small, all of my turrets in BloX are 4x4. And they are small.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 12 Oct 2007, 02:21

Infantry were 1x1...

Alright, got it fixed, kudos to smoth..

Really simple script actually. Just attach-unit unitid/drop-unit unitid...

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 20 Oct 2007, 05:01

New post

Would be three in a row, if I didn't delete my old one.

I am asking again, is it possible to use unitid to find if a unit is nearing completion of being built?

yuritch · Post by **yuritch** » 20 Oct 2007, 07:53

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#define UNIT_BUILD_PERCENT_LEFT 73
static-var unitCompleteness;
...
unitCompleteness=get UNIT_BUILD_PERCENT_LEFT(unitID);

Is that what you were looking for?

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 20 Oct 2007, 15:38

The smaller the number the more complete by the way, I often used a "while (get BUILD_PERCENT_LEFT) sleep 250;" loop in the Create() function so certain endless loops for animations don't get called right away.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 21 Oct 2007, 01:08

yuritch wrote:
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#define UNIT_BUILD_PERCENT_LEFT 73
static-var unitCompleteness;
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unitCompleteness=get UNIT_BUILD_PERCENT_LEFT(unitID);
Is that what you were looking for?

So, that would get the unit currently being builts health?

Of course, I would still need a way to get the unitid of a unit being built though.

Also, rattle, I already do that for my buildings, which have antennas, rotating pieces, flashing lights, etc. So that way, you can tell if it is finished or not.

yuritch · Post by **yuritch** » 21 Oct 2007, 14:17

Yes, UNIT_BUILD_PERCENT_LEFT(unitID) will get you the info about how close to completion a unit is. It's not related to health btw, if the unit is damaged while being built, it can come out of factory with less than max HP (there is a FBI tag that controls that).
How you get the id of said unit is another matter. I'd probably try to find it by using your factory's pad piece (or whatever it's called, the one which the unit being built is attached to) XZ coordinates and then cycling throgh all the units and comparing their coordinates with that. This can be improved by also checking the Y coordinate (so the script won't occasionally pick a plane flying over the factory).

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 21 Oct 2007, 18:45

Alright, thanks, hope I can get this to work. Never used the coordinates for something before.

[Krogoth86] · Post by **[Krogoth86]** » 25 Oct 2007, 15:56

I've got a question concerning Upspring and 3do:
I have problems with the units I assembled and textured (the 3do way) in Upsring. While the unit itself works fine scriptwise I have problems with the textures. Some of them don't get recognized by Spring and instead there is a sort of "complilation" of all textures spring has. To show an extreme of this I have a picture (where I did something wrong which is why it completely shows the effect):

Usually there are some textures right but some get replaced by this compilation texture. I for example took the Core Storm's legs and put another body on top. The legs still are textured in a correct way but only two or three textures of the body were right - the rest presents itself just as that ugly mixture. I then tried to texture it in the 3dobuilder and voil├â┬á now the textures are correct. Unfortunately the 3dobuilder ate some of the empty objects I put in to mark where the gunshots come from etc. and when I try to open the new model in Upsring it just crashes...

So is there a way to do 3do texturing in Upspring or do I have to completely rely on the 3dobuilder?

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 25 Oct 2007, 19:27

The textures need to have the right name to show up correctly. Also, if you download 3dos with custom textures you need to port these over.

[Krogoth86] · Post by **[Krogoth86]** » 25 Oct 2007, 23:32

Well I have only used the standard textures yet. I now also textured another model in 3dobuilder and the 3do opened fine in Upsring and even after saving it there the textures stayed correct ingame. So it seems that 3dobuilder is going to be my new best friend...

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 25 Oct 2007, 23:38

Upspring and UV mapping tutorials should be your new best friends.

[Krogoth86] · Post by **[Krogoth86]** » 26 Oct 2007, 01:09

rattle wrote:Upspring and UV mapping tutorials should be your new best friends.

Nah - I want to have a consistent look and as long I don't have all TA units done in a modern way I'll stay with the 3do style. Well I could convert my 3dos to s30s but that would be kinda memory waste imo...

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 26 Oct 2007, 08:38

[Krogoth86] wrote:as long I don't have all TA units done in a modern way I'll stay with the 3do style.

Best way to make sure you'll never have all units done in s3o.

[Krogoth86] · Post by **[Krogoth86]** » 26 Oct 2007, 13:31

KDR_11k wrote:Best way to make sure you'll never have all units done in s3o.

There's some truth in it but I want to make a game, not a graphics demo. Especially as I tend to remodel some new things I don't really like the texture mapping also would have been a waste of time - so maybe I'll think about that when the mod is finished (and Mr. D did a big part of my job already

)...

BTW - maybe two other points:
1.)
I have a problem with my Adv. Wind model:

As you can see one face of the bottom left "foot" is missing and I don't really know why. I think it is a problem with Upspring (in which the model was assembled) yet again because when I look at it in 3dobuilder the following shows up:

Only this faces has this pointed line when being selected and I don't really know how to change that. It's not as simple as to flip the face btw (it's shown correctly in the editors anyway). I call it a Upspring error because when I import the meshes in 3dobuilder the face has a normal outline when being selected though I haven't made proof of that yet in Spring...

2.)
So with the problem from 1.) I might tend to even assemble my models right in 3dobuilder but I haven't figured something out yet:
a) How to just move an object's origin?
b) When setting up empty points to mark positions for smoke to come out when firing, there's something wrong in Spring. The effect shows up but just pops up extremly short and is stretched along one axis. When trying to open a model with 3dobuilder objects in Upsring it crashes. When I take my 3dobuilder model and create the empty objects with Upspring everything works fine in Spring. Is there something to mind when doing those empty objects in 3dobuilder?

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