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Forboding Angel wrote:SS, you're forgetting this is bronze league. In bronze, a zerg will wait till he has a bajillion mutas to attack at which point, having a bunch of colossus is the worst thing that could happen because oyu have no way to protect them, stalkers can't shoot mutas down that fast. Enter the storms. 2 decently placed storms on mutas can kill an entire flock in 2 storms or so.
Haha, I didn't know you were bronze league. Ya, I guess in bronze betting on your opponent being bad isn't an entirely bad gamble.
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in bronze league its so difficult to lose.. toss can win with 3 proxy gate pretty much infallably.

or vs T, rush out 6 zelots & a sentry, then chew through his depo walloff- marines will do almost nothing to gaurdian shield protected zelots (3 armour trololol), once you are through spam infinite zelots, maek pylon in his base gggggggg

vs Z, just 4 gate zelot spam will do the trick since Z cant wall off

vs P, spaem cannon & pylon in their workerline GG

its not until the platinum league that people know how to counter any of that stuff
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But I could be scouted, when the guy sees im only taking minerals he knows I will zealot rush.

Or the pylon in the base can be easily destroyed by all drones.

But thx Ill try all that.
zealot rush even worked in practice league with 2 stones to destroy before you could enter their base.
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Just played vs a guy who was so dumb but beat me :x
He went to his choke so I thought he gets the expo early, so did I
I build phoenixes to harras his expo but there was no expo, hes was fortified on his original minerals.

The I just saw him take down my carriers and void rays by the "I build 40 stalkers tactic" :x

I had twice as much money as that guy :evil:

Im so done with losing do dumbasses fuck starcraft2 :x
Everything in this games is like "bam now youre totally fucked" when a strategy doesnt work out. :|
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Machete234 wrote: The I just saw him take down my carriers with stalkers
it dosnt sound like you are exactly playing optimally..
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person who doesnt scout, failed to scout
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True dumbass didnt have any detectors where he built his 40 stalkers so I could have watched him with an observer all the time.

Later yesterday I pissed people off with cannon rush I needed that.
1v0ry_k1ng wrote:
Machete234 wrote: The I just saw him take down my carriers with stalkers
it dosnt sound like you are exactly playing optimally..
The whole screen is full in sc2, you dont see shit anymore.
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1v0ry_k1ng wrote:toss for the GSL, I called it! shit gon be mega

ohh yearhhhh, and warp prisms have entered the metagame
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1v0ry_k1ng wrote:in bronze league its so difficult to lose.. toss can win with 3 proxy gate pretty much infallably.
The thing is, this isn't true. Why? Because I'm still in bronze regardless of how much I win, and bnet thinks it's funny to place me against platinum players. As a result, I have absolutely no idea if who I'm playing is an epic newb, or a hardcore opponent.

@machete, seriously dude, why are you building carriers anyway? The t3 air units are a joke.

So anyway, I got tired of 4gating my way to victory, so now I almost always go 2gate robo into colossus, which is nice because it allows me to expand by 6 - 7 minutes in, then expand again about 10 minutes in, assumi9ng the game isn't over by then.

I hate bnet's matchmaker tho, it is epic shit.
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Forboding Angel wrote:
1v0ry_k1ng wrote:in bronze league its so difficult to lose.. toss can win with 3 proxy gate pretty much infallably.
The thing is, this isn't true. Why? Because I'm still in bronze regardless of how much I win, and bnet thinks it's funny to place me against platinum players. As a result, I have absolutely no idea if who I'm playing is an epic newb, or a hardcore opponent.

@machete, seriously dude, why are you building carriers anyway? The t3 air units are a joke.

So anyway, I got tired of 4gating my way to victory, so now I almost always go 2gate robo into colossus, which is nice because it allows me to expand by 6 - 7 minutes in, then expand again about 10 minutes in, assumi9ng the game isn't over by then.

I hate bnet's matchmaker tho, it is epic shit.
T3 air units can catch an opponent off guard if they don't have a balanced unit mix. But ya, generally I agree, per cost they're pretty useless. It was better when T3 air forced your opponent to respond with air I felt.

there's a few scenarios, like a terran who is countering your small unit air fleet with thors will get crushed by battlecruisers or carriers, or a roach queen infestor zerg. I can't think of a protoss scenario unless maby the toss was using psystorm exclusively for AA... even then, psystorm isn't too bad against massive units, and they probably still have a few blink stalkers which will make any high teir air unit look useless.
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Meh, psi storm vs massive is pretty pathetic really. Takes 3 or 4 storms (maybe more?) to kill a thor, so if a terran goes mech and you're stuck on high temps, you are thoroughly boned if you don't transition quickly into colossus.

However in the interim, you can beat him back temporarily with some dts. Easiest way to do that is mass a bunch of chargelots, then mix in 3 or 4 dts so that way he might not notice that from his perspective, your chargelots are doing a little too well :-)

You can also switch to archons, but archons are fairly useless thanks to marauder slow.
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Forboding Angel wrote:Meh, psi storm vs massive is pretty pathetic really. Takes 3 or 4 storms (maybe more?) to kill a thor, so if a terran goes mech and you're stuck on high temps, you are thoroughly boned if you don't transition quickly into colossus.

However in the interim, you can beat him back temporarily with some dts. Easiest way to do that is mass a bunch of chargelots, then mix in 3 or 4 dts so that way he might not notice that from his perspective, your chargelots are doing a little too well :-)

You can also switch to archons, but archons are fairly useless thanks to marauder slow.
Ya, well, it's specific to carriers and battlecruisers, they move so slow, you can't afford to just sit over the enemy base and swallow psystorms if that is what the enemy is going to do to respond to your offensive. Archons also tend to not be terrible against the massive air units. Just that in comparison blink stalkers tend to be godly against them. Protoss just isn't very threatened by T3 air threats in starcraft 2. Maby broodlords, but even those seem weaker against stalkers than they do against marines thors or hydralisks (which most zerg players never actually get anyways)
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Why does starcraft 2 still cost full price!!
In blizznet it told me its 50 euro!!for digital downlaod.WTF.
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fyi @ noobs saying carriers suck, they dont.. once you have air weapons upgraded +2 or +3 they absolutely dominate, and can attack from 13 distance away with micro. interceptors cost just 25 minerals each, which is incredibly cheap late game. they only fail if you use them unupgraded and run them into range of enemy units. they can beat vikings for cost easy with a full compliment of upgraded interceptors..
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Gota wrote:Why does starcraft 2 still cost full price!!
In blizznet it told me its 50 euro!!for digital downlaod.WTF.
Because Activision publishes it, and it's still selling like hot cakes.
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Gota wrote:Why does starcraft 2 still cost full price!!
In blizznet it told me its 50 euro!!for digital downlaod.WTF.
Get the retail version,it should be about 40 on amazon.

Uk import could be cheaper but you need a credit card.
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Its worth the money, just buy it.
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why? becouse ppl buy it.how braindead u would have to be to lower the price if ppl buy the game even with higher price.

gg
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I cant believe I hadnt found this thread anyways I'm willing to give anyone some sc2 training if they want Im a pretty high level diamond terran (2300 points) with 2000 games (yeah ive been playing SC2) my nick is flopflop.779 add me guys :)
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give me training plz :3
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