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The fun bit is that the US are in no danger, NK cannot reach them. And nuking Alaska would be a bit pointless. If Kim is cornered, he can do 2 things: flatten Seoul with conventional artillery and, if he really has nukes, nuke Tokyo.
Attacking NK is never an option, because Seoul would be gone within hours. The nuke, if they actually have one, isn't really such a big problem, since NK has serious delivery issues. Plus Patriots, etc.
There won't be an intervention though. NK has no natural resources or anything to finance a KBR-Halliburton-led reconstruction with, so there's no incentive for Bush to do anything.
This is all just pre-election bullying and posing. Woo, nutty tyrant with a nuke, vote for me, I can protect you (from a nonsubstantial threat, just like in Iraq). If anything ever happens, South Korea and Japan will take all the damage, the US will just sit there, out of range, and bomb NK back to... wait, most of them already are in the Stone Age. Anyway, you get my point. When it's all over, a couple of Chinese armies will come in from the north, "liberate" North Korea and assimilate it into mainland China.
Seriously, Kim has nothing to gain from a war. He would be utterly annihilated with no perspective of any sort of advantage. He might order an attack on Seoul if someone actually attacks him or puts him under enough pressure (hello George), but it would mean the end for North Korea. Kim wants to be left alone. And Bush has no option. He has no more resources for a ground war. And, as history has shown, air war without troops on the ground will get you nowhere. So what is going to happen, realistically?
Nothing. Macho displays of strength. A provocation here, a compromise there. Diplomacy. Kim might offer to let inspectors in in exchange for food and goods, because threatening the world is the only means of income for his country besides the production of metaamphetamines and cartoons. You know, the UN will say: "if you behave, we'll give you food", just like they always do after Kim scares everyone.
I seriously doubt this is anything other than the usual cat and mouse between NK and the rest of the world. It happens every few years. This time he has a nuke. I don't believe that really makes much of a difference.
Attacking NK is never an option, because Seoul would be gone within hours. The nuke, if they actually have one, isn't really such a big problem, since NK has serious delivery issues. Plus Patriots, etc.
There won't be an intervention though. NK has no natural resources or anything to finance a KBR-Halliburton-led reconstruction with, so there's no incentive for Bush to do anything.
This is all just pre-election bullying and posing. Woo, nutty tyrant with a nuke, vote for me, I can protect you (from a nonsubstantial threat, just like in Iraq). If anything ever happens, South Korea and Japan will take all the damage, the US will just sit there, out of range, and bomb NK back to... wait, most of them already are in the Stone Age. Anyway, you get my point. When it's all over, a couple of Chinese armies will come in from the north, "liberate" North Korea and assimilate it into mainland China.
Seriously, Kim has nothing to gain from a war. He would be utterly annihilated with no perspective of any sort of advantage. He might order an attack on Seoul if someone actually attacks him or puts him under enough pressure (hello George), but it would mean the end for North Korea. Kim wants to be left alone. And Bush has no option. He has no more resources for a ground war. And, as history has shown, air war without troops on the ground will get you nowhere. So what is going to happen, realistically?
Nothing. Macho displays of strength. A provocation here, a compromise there. Diplomacy. Kim might offer to let inspectors in in exchange for food and goods, because threatening the world is the only means of income for his country besides the production of metaamphetamines and cartoons. You know, the UN will say: "if you behave, we'll give you food", just like they always do after Kim scares everyone.
I seriously doubt this is anything other than the usual cat and mouse between NK and the rest of the world. It happens every few years. This time he has a nuke. I don't believe that really makes much of a difference.
I dunno what everyones problem is, Kim came across as very likeable fellow on Team America, although he did feed poor Hans to his pet shark. ^^
And who can forget his heartwrming redition of ...
"immm sooo wowwwnweee, so wowwwneee and sadweee awoowwne"
Anyway I think the next big thing is gonna be Iran and Isreal, the Iranian president has said he wants to wipe Isreal of the face of the earth, being that Iran have just gone nuclear the Isrealis are rather worried. I would be too, not surprisingly theyre already working out a plan to bomb specific targets in Iran.
In fact this whole thing about unstable dictatorships, rogue states and just, well, dodgy geezers in general getting their hands on nuclear technology is quite scary, anyone know anywhere I can go bury my head in the sand and forget about these lunatics?
(and I include monsieur Bush the short arsed, redneck moron in there too)
Oh, whadaya know Im already here, spring,
Right, im off to the battlefield to go nuke Cabbage ^^
And who can forget his heartwrming redition of ...
"immm sooo wowwwnweee, so wowwwneee and sadweee awoowwne"
Anyway I think the next big thing is gonna be Iran and Isreal, the Iranian president has said he wants to wipe Isreal of the face of the earth, being that Iran have just gone nuclear the Isrealis are rather worried. I would be too, not surprisingly theyre already working out a plan to bomb specific targets in Iran.
In fact this whole thing about unstable dictatorships, rogue states and just, well, dodgy geezers in general getting their hands on nuclear technology is quite scary, anyone know anywhere I can go bury my head in the sand and forget about these lunatics?
(and I include monsieur Bush the short arsed, redneck moron in there too)
Oh, whadaya know Im already here, spring,
Right, im off to the battlefield to go nuke Cabbage ^^
Oi, steve you git!
I WAS going to invite you to join me in Hack Green Secret Nuclear Bunker (Thats what the tourists signs say ^^), but now you can forget it!
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I WAS going to invite you to join me in Hack Green Secret Nuclear Bunker (Thats what the tourists signs say ^^), but now you can forget it!
http://www.hackgreen.co.uk/
Japan has survived two nukes, they'll survive whatever NK can throw at them. Never mind NK will probably be more busy nuking SK since that's the primary landing point for any US forces interfering. Of course if NK fires nukes there's no real need for an invasion, just send some nukes to the north and apologies for the fallout to the south.
The Patriot system is not accurate enough to stop a nuclear war. If you tried to use that for stopping a nuclear assault you'd get annihilated.
Terrorists won't use nukes if they expect retaliation. Sure, the common guy with a bombcase believes he'll get a good afterlife but the leaders know they've only been spouting bullshit to control their minions. None of the big "jihadists" would die for their cause, I'm pretty sure. Religion is mostly a tool to assert domination and I don't expect this to be different. "God is on our side", "We'll go to heaven for this", etc are just propaganda to control the weak minded, their goals are entirely worldly. And I'm pretty sure as well that the leaders know that nukes mean the gloves come off (i.e. civilian casualties are tolerated instead of avoided and the big guns are used indiscriminately, conquered cities are pillaged, bombing raids turn into area bombardements, etc) and they can see a WW2-like slaughterfest on their soil pretty soon, except it's nowhere close to the mostly even matched battle that WW2 was, it's going to be a very one-sided battle.
The Patriot system is not accurate enough to stop a nuclear war. If you tried to use that for stopping a nuclear assault you'd get annihilated.
Terrorists won't use nukes if they expect retaliation. Sure, the common guy with a bombcase believes he'll get a good afterlife but the leaders know they've only been spouting bullshit to control their minions. None of the big "jihadists" would die for their cause, I'm pretty sure. Religion is mostly a tool to assert domination and I don't expect this to be different. "God is on our side", "We'll go to heaven for this", etc are just propaganda to control the weak minded, their goals are entirely worldly. And I'm pretty sure as well that the leaders know that nukes mean the gloves come off (i.e. civilian casualties are tolerated instead of avoided and the big guns are used indiscriminately, conquered cities are pillaged, bombing raids turn into area bombardements, etc) and they can see a WW2-like slaughterfest on their soil pretty soon, except it's nowhere close to the mostly even matched battle that WW2 was, it's going to be a very one-sided battle.
Yeah, right, WELL THEN GOD CAN WAIT! I ain't gunna suicide like its a free ticket to heaven anyway...
"We want your holy land" Damn terrorists... Israel is seriously gunna go ballistic if they keep this up.
And back on topic (kinda..)
I think we should roll them over if they mess with us, even a little bit.. If they say they will launch nukes, don't take chances...
We wouldn't even need any kinds of nukes ourselves... We could smash them easily with bombs and all..
"We want your holy land" Damn terrorists... Israel is seriously gunna go ballistic if they keep this up.
And back on topic (kinda..)
I think we should roll them over if they mess with us, even a little bit.. If they say they will launch nukes, don't take chances...
We wouldn't even need any kinds of nukes ourselves... We could smash them easily with bombs and all..
But see here, Neddi, I want the BOOK form! As in printed and stuff. I hate reading things off a computer screen for long periods. So I continue to wait till I can spend a ludicrous amount of money to follow the hilarious story of a mutant her wacky friends....
And that is why I like America and countries like it. When our leaders do annoying things, we can complain and not get shot in the face by government run death squads!
And that is why I like America and countries like it. When our leaders do annoying things, we can complain and not get shot in the face by government run death squads!
