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Extreme bad performace

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Post by Caydr »

10 degrees makes a huge difference, not only to the lifetime of the CPU but to system stability. That big of a temperature increase will literally quarter (or worse) the lifetime of your CPU if it's at that temperature even at idle.
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yes but the average CPU life is a long time, 8-10 years. I plan on upgrading before then.
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Also it was a pin mod, i changed nothing else except that so the temperature/cpu life is affected far less than if i were to do it by increasing voltage (this is standard way, apparently?). Runs great.
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First off, swap size should always be 3x the size of your RAM, any less and it's not as efficient as it could be, any larger and it's too large and it's still not as efficient as it could be.

1.5GB ram? Could you not do things like loading the windows core into memory? Swapfiles where originally there because of low memory, just remember that.

If you have performance trouble with running spring on a high end computer, do you have antivirus/firewall and a spyware checker? If you dont then bugger off tilly uo have them, because you're wasting other peoples time being stupid.

Use a computer without a basic security setup, and expect to have bad performance, faulty programs, crashes, no exceptions.

That and what everyone else said.
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Sheekel wrote:Also it was a pin mod, i changed nothing else except that so the temperature/cpu life is affected far less than if i were to do it by increasing voltage (this is standard way, apparently?). Runs great.
OCing a laptop isn't a good idea. Those things are already so compact that increasing the CPU temp by 10C is a bad thing. If it is an intel, I would def watch out.

Basically, OCing means u change the CPU multiplyer, frequency. CPU voltage usually increase to maintain stability. When it runs faster and harder, you have to give it more power to maintain it and run stable. Hence, you get more heat as well. Not only does OCing the CPU ups the cpu core voltage past the "safe" zone, it also voids any warrantee you have on it. Without proper cooling, you can damage the CPU. I would def watch the CPU temperature idle and in 100% load for extended periods of time. Run a benchmark test on it for like 3 hrs straight and take the CPU temp. If it is getting close to the 65+C range, thats not a good thing.

Great things about building ur own PC's is you can OC it and buy aftermarket coolers to cool ur cpu/ram/vid card down to optimal temps. You can't do that on a laptop.

Besides, going from 1.5 to 2.0 won't make THAT much of a difference. Even if it is like a 33% increase, you won't see 33% increase in performance or a 33% decrease in loading times.
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Its running at a constant 35 degrees C. :-)
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AF wrote:First off, swap size should always be 3x the size of your RAM, any less and it's not as efficient as it could be, any larger and it's too large and it's still not as efficient as it could be.

1.5GB ram? Could you not do things like loading the windows core into memory? Swapfiles where originally there because of low memory, just remember that.

If you have performance trouble with running spring on a high end computer, do you have antivirus/firewall and a spyware checker? If you dont then bugger off tilly uo have them, because you're wasting other peoples time being stupid.

Use a computer without a basic security setup, and expect to have bad performance, faulty programs, crashes, no exceptions.

That and what everyone else said.
Try rendering high resolution terrain. I can't even process water tables because it would require 50 gigs of MEMORY to process. Maybe that helps you understand a little better.
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Sheekel wrote:Its running at a constant 35 degrees C. :-)
umm, that is rather warm. Your cpu will die quite quickly.
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Post by Sheekel »

really? maybe this wasnt such a good idea...rats

Do you think having 512mgb more ram will improve things, even if CPU is at 1.5ghz?
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my graphics card runs at twice that heat. hahahahahahaha
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....and cyclerboy is never heard from again...
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Post by AF »

When i made my comments I was not including such as extremes as high processing tasks such as rendering large images, or compiling maps, but rather ordinary system usage and playing games, running windows generally
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cyclerboy wrote:my graphics card runs at twice that heat. hahahahahahaha

35 degrees CELCIUS you dolt.

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i know twice as high is 70C which is what its doing
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Post by Sheekel »

Cyclerboy, did it ever occur to you that your random restarts and freezes are because you're computer is overheating? thats really warm. its hot. its hotter than jessical alba.

ANYWAY, i took out the pin-mod and it turns out my cpu is still running around 35 degrees. So i went out and got some thermal cooling gel (grease up the heat sync and cool things off a bit) and it only changed it by a few degrees. i undervolted and that dropped off another, but i decided to get some more ram (512) so i will have that + my current 256.

[edit] i overclocked it again...i really noticed a significant difference and if it only changed it by 3 degrees, its worth it. if my CPU fries in a year or two i will just get another one for 30$ or whatever they will be selling Celerons for then.
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Post by mother »

Sheekel wrote: So i went out and got some thermal cooling gel (grease up the heat sync and cool things off a bit) and it only changed it by a few degrees.
Just FWIW You want to use as little thermal goo as possible. The less the better. It is not as good a conductor as the metal on the cpu or heatsink is... It's just better then air that would otherwise live in the little tiny gaps and pockets between the two.
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Post by Sheekel »

i see, thanks mother i shall fix that

[edit] haha, as if my mom would care...anyway....
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