U.N. okays military action on Libya

[Licho]

Against what forum rule Swiftspear?

It's just an opinion, I also think that most of those hundred thousands civilians killed in Iraq because of invasion with fake reasons didnt deserve it..

[smoth]

Because it is part of the constant DERPY hate the US bullshit that people keep posting. I posted this thread just to see if people could discuss this and refrain from anti-us bullcrap and of course they couldn't. Whatever, people hate decisions my government made. I love how it is when forb said eurofag, which while feculent is not nearly as repugnant as than the constant mean spirited prattle people post about americans here. Not like there are any americans around to be offended, yet someone drops a term such as eurofag and it is time to gird yourself for battle?

Nah, I think this shit needs to stop. I don't think there is a single government not making bad decisions right now. Just like people are complaining about how the world didn't act sooner against this guy, if the us had intervened earlier people would still bitch. Sad part is somehow america became the world police, fuck if I know when that shit started. I wish it wasn't the case, but the world decided to let the US do what it did and afterwards come in and act like they were against it? Bullshit, you cannot tell me for 1 fucking second that the EU if it wanteded to couldn't not take the US on! I don't believe this shit for 1 fucking second.

So simple, stop constantly looking for ways to sling shit or expect more users to start calling people eurofags... oh wait, it is remarkably like flamebaiting... OH SHI...

[Regret]

Against what forum rule Swiftspear?

He employed Misdemeanor 5 on Felony 9 according to user notes.

Misdemeanor 5 as in : you get harsh treatment even if you didn't mean it bad.

No. Misdemeanor 5 means you've committed an offence that I could ban you for, but I recognize that you didn't do it intentionally or you had no bad intentions, so I just warn you so you're aware it was offensive and was bothering someone instead of actually punishing you

Felony 9 as in : somehow he feels it is racist or prejudiced.

Just because a prejudice is popular, does not mean it's neutral. Spliff's statement was offensive to anyone supportive of the USA in their recent military actions.

As a sidenote: SwiftSpear warns for report system abuse when he disagrees with user reports. Maybe less harsh approach is in order? Good practice is to result to using your moderation tools only after you exhausted other options of conflict resolution, especially in such a small community that this forum has.

Report system abuse is against the rules, you get warned for breaking the rules

Disclaimer: this post does not express disrespect towards any moderator, as such it is allowed under Felony 6 do disagree with moderator actions openly.

EDIT by Regret: The red text was added by a moderator.

[Forboding Angel]

Lol I just call it how it is. They can warn me for saying eurofag as much as they want. It doesn't make the term any less appropriate. They just get pissed off because we think its funny when they say amerifag instead of us taking self righteous offense at it.

[BaNa]

I think being labeled an american is more offensive than any swear word - euro mashup you can come up with, especially because nobody from europe identifies themselves as European.

Anyhow, I am very happy about this intervention for once. It could have come sooner, but at least it came. Btw, to the america haters, european fighters started it and are doing the grunt work atm, I feel this is a true joint mission.

edit: by grunt work i mean jobs which include the risk of death

[Regret]

Just because a prejudice is popular, does not mean it's neutral. Spliff's statement was offensive to anyone supportive of the USA in their recent military actions.

Neutrality is not mandatory as I understand, people have different opinions on certain matters and part of the point of a forum is to express them in a civil manner.

Is it not prejudice to be preferential to the side that is supportive of an issue, and dismissive to the disagreeing one?

Report system abuse is against the rules, you get warned for breaking the rules

I agree. Does issuing a report for a thread or post that you suspect might be breaking rules constitute as abuse? I am asking this in order to be sure I won't get banned/warned again for trying to make your job easier by reporting suspected offenders. I won't press the report button again if it carries a risk of being banned/warned just because the reported issue turned out to be not against the rules as interpreted by the one that closed the report.

[Forboding Angel]

Oh ok so by regret's reasoning, this is acceptable:

Muslims are nothing but camel jockey, towel headed, suicide bombers and should be shot on sight to save the rest of us some trouble.

^^ Now, while I don't agree with that statement (even though, sadly, I can sympathize with the sentiment regardless of the fact that I find it extremely distasteful), I can say with some certainty that there is at least some amount of prejudice vs muslims in the US. After all that has happened, it's not surprising. But by your logic, because the prejudice is accepted by many many people, then it is ok for me to go spouting that BS.

Fuck that.

The sad part is, people in general seem to think that if everyone else does it, then it's ok. God forbid you have a little bit of personal responsibility and a shred of decency.

/soapbox

[Regret]

Oh ok so by regret's reasoning, this is acceptable:

Muslims are nothing but camel jockey, towel headed, suicide bombers and should be shot on sight to save the rest of us some trouble.

in a civil manner

It is not acceptable.

Why lower yourself to a strawman?

[IMSabbel]

Just because a prejudice is popular, does not mean it's neutral. Spliff's statement was offensive to anyone supportive of the USA in their recent military actions.

So "fascist warmonger" constitudes a protected minority now? Nice to hear, we have some neo-nazis over here that we could gladly deported into this forum here for their own protection.

[Regret]

So "fascist warmonger" constitudes a protected minority now? Nice to hear, we have some neo-nazis over here that we could gladly deported into this forum here for their own protection.

For the record, I didn't write the red text.

[klapmongool]

Just because a prejudice is popular, does not mean it's neutral. Spliff's statement was offensive to anyone supportive of the USA in their recent military actions.

So "fascist warmonger" constitudes a protected minority now? Nice to hear, we have some neo-nazis over here that we could gladly deported into this forum here for their own protection.

Well, wouldnt directly wanna call americans fascists but... it is not like Spliff's statement isn't 'true', no matter how 'offended' those poor people are. America's military actions haven't always been as... chivalrous as they could have been.

Smoth, sorry for being part of screwing over your topic :)

[smoth]

It's ok, I had hoped to have a nice discussion about libya, as I am grey on whether or not kadaffi is on the good or bad side. I had hoped this community was mature enough to discuss it. So I posted in a way to decrease the likelyhood of such bigotry. Yet here we are people going out of their way to perpetuate an anti-american attitude despite the large number of us who are here. It really disappoints me that people like IMSabbel would throw around fascist warmonger so easily. It's ok, the world can keep treating myself and other Americans this way and we will begin to hate them. It's all their choice, and honestly, if people here want to blindly hate 311+mill people for no good reason, that is their colossal blunder.

This community as I suspected is unable to neutrally discuss these things and while some people have no problem behaving this way to others, I do and will not be a party to it. Honestly, disappointed.

[knorke]

I had hoped to have a nice discussion about libya

oh come on.
Let me sum up all your contribution to this nice discussion:
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http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/03/1 ... MP20110317
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This might be interesting.

[smoth]

your link got borked.

[knorke]

no u
(i guess nobody clicked the link anyway)

[smoth]

it goes to a not found page man.

[knorke]

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/03/1 ... MP20110317
there i fixed it.

[smoth]

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/03/1 ... MP20110317
there i fixed it.

my old link with a link to http://www.powergenitalia.com/.

[knorke]

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/03/1 ... MP20110317
there i fixed it.

my old link with a link to http://www.powergenitalia.com/.

a new link with a link to your old link: http://www.penisland.net/

[Licho]

Hmm, server is in europe, I suggest switching allegiance and banning all eurofags who say eurofag and all people who try to report report anti-american rants