Shogun Total War 2 (demo)

[Otherside]

I will probably wait to get it till it gets modded.

Devs usually fail with the vanilla title.

Seriously anyone who has MTW2 needs to get the stainless steel mod and give it a replay and see how much better it is.

MTW1 will always be special for me as I spent 2+ years of my life playing it online and reached number 1 in clan and player rankings at one point :]

[DavetheBrave]

Tried a couple multi-player games last night. The addition of objectives and varied terrain made that quite fun. IIRC all people would fight on in Rome and medieval was flat plains.

[Otherside]

Tried a couple multi-player games last night. The addition of objectives and varied terrain made that quite fun. IIRC all people would fight on in Rome and medieval was flat plains.

Online RTW was teh suck and MTW2 as well cos not everyone had the good mods and vanilla was pretty bad.

in MTW1 you would very often get games which weren't on flats. I personally disliked playing steppes every game >_>

[Gota]

Is it me or is the zoom in shogun 2 very restricted???

[DavetheBrave]

OH SHI---

[SanadaUjiosan]

That map looks frightening. The Takeda, Uesugi and Shimazu sharing Honshu... I'd hate to be there.

[Johannes]

Hmm, makes me want to replay Sengoku Rance

[Gota]

Makes me wanna play Shogun 1.

[Machete234]

Makes me want to conquer my 2nd city

[Otherside]

has made me start playing MTW2 Stainless Steel again.

[1v0ry_k1ng]

is this game genuinely hard?
as in, difficult without resorting to just making all the AIs extremely likely declare war on the player like rome/MTW2 do on hard+ difficulties?

if it is hard (on high difficulties) simply because the AI is good and the game well balanced, so far that it is difficult to win on your first playthrough, I will a hundred percent buy this

[Gota]

Well i started with the guys on top on very hard and so far im shredding the AI but i read the art of war so no wonder XD

[SpliFF]

Just bought the game.

Haven't played it yet and I'm already fucked off. Why... FUCKING STEAM!

I knew the game uses Steam, that isn't my complaint. My compliant is this game arrived in the store today and already it's decided to spend 1 WHOLE FUCKING HOUR downloading some kind of MANDATORY patch!! I want to play it NOW. If I want to fucking update it I'll do it tonight, when I'm sleeping.

This smells of an unfinished game. If it doesn't work when this patch is done I'm catching a plane over to Japan to kick in some fucking heads at SEGA. Then I'm going to see Valve and tell them mandatory patching is enough to make me boycott future Steam games.

In other - less violent - news I've ordered a new gfx card just to play it (I figure it'll run pretty slow and ugly on my 8800GT). Both AMD and Nvidia have been discounting pretty heavily across all their new cards except for the very top end so the decision was actually quite hard. In the end I decided on Gigabyte ATI RADEON 6870 1GB OC. It has a pretty agressive overclock (915Mhz instead of 880Mhz) so hopefully it's stable (it has an extra fan which might help).

[1v0ry_k1ng]

Well i started with the guys on top on very hard and so far im shredding the AI but i read the art of war so no wonder XD

as in, on very hard it is still easy? I downloaded shogun total war 1 and completed the grand campaign on expert on my very first playthrough in under 3 hours... my dissapointment = 100%. Likewise, it is impossible to lose medieval total wars campaign once you know what you are doing. rome/medieval 2 were difficult on higher difficulties only because the all the AI players would gang up on the player (which was a very stupid and immersion breaking way of boosting difficulty).

again, is the AI in shogun better?
does the game represent a geniune challenge?
on the highest difficulty, how is that difficulty created? does the AI/game cheat outragously? tell meee

[SpliFF]

FUCK

I should have fucking known. After an hour of patching the game will not actually start. Thankfully it loads a screen telling me the names of the companies I have to track down and murder just before it returns me to windows without so much as a fuck you very much.

Everyone was saying wait, but I thought no, surely CA and Sega learnt their lesson the last time with all the negative feedback and would make sure the game works before selling it. But apparently my faith in them was misplaced.

Latest drivers, windows updates, clean system, blablabla. Not the only one having this same issue by the looks of things.

TW is the last good game series that doesn't make you wonder why you didn't just buy a Playstation. If they don't get their shit together I'm just going to delete Windows altogether and get my kicks playing MAME and 90's era games under linux / wine - games that despite being 20 years old and/or designed for an entirely different hardware platform are still more reliable than anything being offered on Steam or "Games for Windows".

[Teutooni]

Well i started with the guys on top on very hard and so far im shredding the AI but i read the art of war so no wonder XD

Hrmm, yes, reading a 2500 year old book magically makes you a strategic genius. ~~

again, is the AI in shogun better?
does the game represent a geniune challenge?
on the highest difficulty, how is that difficulty created? does the AI/game cheat outragously? tell meee

Takeda on hard has been quite challenging so far. This game makes me wonder how the hell a clan with just a single province can field 2 armies full of samurais (~40 units). I am struggling fielding 2 full armies with 1/3 cavalry 1/3 samurai 1/3 ashigaru, and I have 7 provinces in the shinano and kanto area. I guess the soldiers don't care if your budget goes negative, or the AI cheats... :S

Also, legendary difficulty is intresting - you cannot save the game manually, it autosaves at the end of each turn and each battle, so if you suffer a crushing defeat, too bad your only autosave just got overwritten. :)

[SanadaUjiosan]

It seems I've hit my stride (or just got really lucky.) My latest attempt at a Normal difficulty Shimazu campaign has been a huge success so far. I have Kyushu, and I'm allied with the Mori.

It seems to me that, at least on Normal and when on Kyushu, the AI will pick one unit type and just go crazy with it. Before it was always Bow Ashigaru, which made it super difficult. But this time they went Yari Ashigaru, which made it super easy. Needless to say, I'm feeling quite safe and raking in the dough.

[Wombat]

Well i started with the guys on top on very hard and so far im shredding the AI but i read the art of war so no wonder XD

Hrmm, yes, reading a 2500 year old book magically makes you a strategic genius. ~~

its internet. its obvious everyone will say vhard is very easy for him :>

[Gota]

Well i started with the guys on top on very hard and so far im shredding the AI but i read the art of war so no wonder XD

Hrmm, yes, reading a 2500 year old book magically makes you a strategic genius. ~~

its internet. its obvious everyone will say vhard is very easy for him :>

It's the internet, people are always gonna act like assholes.

[BaNa]

FUCK

Protip: Fairlight has a nice patched crack out. Works for me. It is possibly even legal for you to download it if you bought the game.