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Says the person who had a webcam mounted on a web controlled motor base pointed st him 24/7
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I never had a webcam pointed at me 24/7
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AF wrote:Says the person who had a webcam mounted on a web controlled motor base pointed st him 24/7
Those public web cams that can snap pictures of people are neat. We have those at our university. Plus, people like to take pictures with and of their friends and will post them on their websites.
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Your public life is a matter of the level of scrutiny leveled upon you by those around you. A Wikipedia entry sustained for a week or month can create a public persona where there was none, just as a single offensive YouTube video or Facebook post can end up ruining your year. All it takes are people dedicated to interfering with your life, whether through defamation, documentation, etcetera.
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Neddie wrote:Your public life is a matter of the level of scrutiny leveled upon you by those around you. A Wikipedia entry sustained for a week or month can create a public persona where there was none, just as a single offensive YouTube video or Facebook post can end up ruining your year. All it takes are people dedicated to interfering with your life, whether through defamation, documentation, etcetera.
That's true. Isn't it annoying when things like hate crimes or abuse due to a power struggle occurs? Plus, problems can always occur when when people take common sense things like be careful of what you wear, how you wear it, how you carry yourself, where you walk, when you walk there, with whom you walk, whom you trust, what you do, where you do it, with whom you do it, what you drink, how you drink it, how much you drink, whether you make eye contact, if you're alone, if you're with a stranger, if you're in a group, if you're in a group of strangers, and if it's dark out, out of context. I think that this is what happened with this lady and her being kicked out of school for drinking in her off hours. Someone took the picture of her drinking and wearing a pirate hat out of context and said that it was a sign of her ability to behave responsibly as a teacher when her social drinking probably didn't have anything to do with her ability to be a responsible and professional student or potential teacher. It's not like she was walking down the halls flipping off all of her teachers or anything.
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i guess she was a alcoholic, and they tried to get rid of her in silence, when a Reporterraptor came along. Where is here warcry for justice, besides getting brought up as a "case" in some linemags.

I know some teachers, one was alcoholic and died from that, another had a nervous breakdown in class, third was only hired as freelancer and ruined her health working to many hours, to make ends met. Maybe its ridiculous to question and argue over a case, we dont know more, and just should accept the case we have here.

Asuming she was nothing more than heart of the piratparty, than she is inocent, and should be protected by the law from overprotective ( nurtureabsencecompunctions needs a valve) & hysteric parents.

Why cant anybody think of the children? ;)
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One thing remains clear, employers are stupid, and you're an idiot if you haven't set your privacy controls on facebook to friends only on EVERYTHING.

I suppose I kinda lucked out by having an extremely generic name. There are millions of me all over the world. Good luck finding the one that is actually me :-)

Edit: Also, if you're friends with people who you've never met or talked to on facebook, you're an idiot. This shit isn't a popularity contest.
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Forboding Angel wrote:Edit: Also, if you're friends with people who you've never met or talked to on facebook, you're an idiot. This shit isn't a popularity contest.
Yes it is... everything on internet is popularity contest! Dont you watch southpark?
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i lieked myself, can you go blind from smurfin?

Also MagArticle Hitlist: Sort of Infojunkies heaven.
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Panda wrote:
As far as the networking thing goes, a lot of people get into that to keep in contact with their friends. If someone has a lot of friends who are on a social network site, they would probably feel were and get left out of a lot of things if they didn't join the network. I'm not particularly interested in things like Twitter, but I was required to join the site for a class one time, so I could see why someone might want to be on a social network. Besides, with the growing demand for people who know how to use such technology, it seems as though just telling people not join a social network is not the solution.
For staying in contact icq is enough at least for me.

If youre required to make a profile for class you could have protested.
Its your right to not give out data about yourself.
People were fighting for decades to know what kind of info the state saves about them and who can acces that info etc.
Our generation just throws that away for nothing.

And I think not joining a networking site is a great solution, there should be as little as possible info about you on the internet.
"Everyone is doing it" is not a reason for you to do it, do you jump off a bridge when everybody does it.
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i think, over time, people will develop more and more flares, that means faked automized personas, who willingly share there information, and therefore make collected data worthless, by filling it up with noise.

One of the nicer gadgets for firefox, TrackMeNot, is just doing that for searches, and im pretty sure, that soon, you will have bots filling facebook with fakes en mass

Also i found this, searching for a opposite opinion, and i am very proud to post-u-late, that i am wrong, at least concerning the past:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scien ... 69452.html
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Edited: Oy, I lost my post.
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PicassoCT wrote: Also i found this, searching for a opposite opinion, and i am very proud to post-u-late, that i am wrong, at least concerning the past:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scien ... 69452.html
#1 is a drug...
this says quite much about our the author, if not about our whole culture.
interesting article though :-)
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Forboding Angel wrote:This shit isn't a popularity contest.
This shit is nothing but a popularity contest.

I also blame the USA for exporting the idea that being popular in high school is more important than grades, with all their TV series featuring prom queen election.

Machete234 wrote:For staying in contact icq is enough at least for me.
ICQ is a tool from the age past. It's been about two generations that people switched to MSN. Not saying it's a better tool. I wish IM protocol just were standardized.

Panda wrote:There's a big push for increased technology usage in all schools over here including the ability to use social networking sites. [...]

Besides, with the growing demand for people who know how to use such technology, it seems as though just telling people not join a social network is not the solution. [...]

I could protest against having to do a homework assignment online, but I happen to want to know how to use the technology
It's funny, because, as a technological person, I would say facebook, twitter, and all those other social networking sites, are not technologically pleasing. Technological people have been using better tools ten years before. Those so called Web 2.0 thing only own their success due to non-technological people using them en masse because they don't know any better. And I'm pretty sure other technological people share this distate of facebook, twitter, and the like. They're used by non-computer-savvy people, maybe by wannabee-geek, but not by true computer nerds.
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Panda wrote:There's a big push for increased technology usage in all schools over here including the ability to use social networking sites. [...]

Besides, with the growing demand for people who know how to use such technology, it seems as though just telling people not join a social network is not the solution. [...]

I could protest against having to do a homework assignment online, but I happen to want to know how to use the technology
It's funny, because, as a technological person, I would say facebook, twitter, and all those other social networking sites, are not technologically pleasing. Technological people have been using better tools ten years before. Those so called Web 2.0 thing only own their success due to non-technological people using them en masse because they don't know any better. And I'm pretty sure other technological people share this distate of facebook, twitter, and the like. They're used by non-computer-savvy people, maybe by wannabee-geek, but not by true computer nerds.
I dont think networking sites are necessary at all its just a useless mass phenomenon and thats nothing for me.
And I dont see any progress there.
This whole web2.0 idea that you can leave a fart in the internet and share it with your friends is nonsense to me.
Normal people dont have that much to say so they shouldnt spam the internet with what they ate today etc its nonsense.
zwzsg wrote: I also blame the USA for exporting the idea that being popular in high school is more important than grades, with all their TV series featuring prom queen election.
You could laugh about this poularity thing in the tv series about 10 years ago but now its just annoying.
You have to be anti-american once in a while. :mrgreen:
I cant say if its really like in tv because I havent been in an exchange program.
Please dont tell me how Im completely wrong and that everything is completely different etc.
The world gets spammed with those questionable american values through tv series.
"oh does brad have a car -no? what a loser, I think I will chose greg as a boyfriend instead" :lol:

what is bad about icq, all my friends have it and I use a miranda client so im not spammed with adverstisement.
Panda wrote:If you can't think of any situations to where it would be more beneficial to use an online social network than not could occur or when it would be necessary to use some sort of social network, then you must be one of those people who are still way too amazed by the world and in need of more experience. How old are you?
Im 25.
And I know enough people that dont use social networks or who left them because they dont want their data collected.
Im not naive you are when you give up your privacy step by step and dont think about it.
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I would like to say something too.
she was promoting drinking in virtual view of her under-age students
This is in my opinion obviously NOT the real reason the principal fired her.

Perhaps he DID mean to protect the students is some way, but somehow I don't think so. The article doesn't provide ample information to determine that.

The journalist wrote about what apparently looks like an injustice (like journalists should). An injustice that potentially can hit all of us, probably until the principals and federal judges of the world are retired and replaced by colleagues with a more up to date world view.

I say the problem is more the fear of technology. Resulting in the inability of teachers (or principals) to teach students how to properly use computers and the internet, or better put, the web.

The bulk of web activity isn't regarded as proper behaviour at all. Is there a principal alive who hasn't ventured to such places at one time or another, and still believes students would never go so similar places? or worse places? I think not.
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Until last week, I didn't mind getting photographed, as I reasoned that anyway, as long as no one knows me, these photos wouldn't be tagged with my name.

Then I realised that image search engine are becoming a reality. A few years from now, it may be possible to input an ID photo in google search query and find all photo matching that face.

So now I just swiftly flip my back everytime I see a phone or camera being aimed.
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a Fido walking the streets draws to much attention to its self :-)
(sorry, couldn't resist)

On a more serious note:
http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/art ... shandeling
This happened in Holland a few days ago. In my words:

Someone was physically abused by some people in a fast food restaurant, and it was caught on camera.

A popular news site (with little journalistic honour or work ethics) published police pictures of the assailants.

As a result Hyves users (a popular Dutch Facebook alternative) who frequent the news site, started persecuting the wrong people.

People (also Hyves users) got recognised from their Facebook-like page, as being the assailants. but it turned out to be completely different people.

I just fear, that when I'm old I'll meet someone who first wants to ask a machine if it recognises me, before engaging in conversation. :-)
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zwzsg wrote:Until last week, I didn't mind getting photographed, as I reasoned that anyway, as long as no one knows me, these photos wouldn't be tagged with my name.

Then I realised that image search engine are becoming a reality. A few years from now, it may be possible to input an ID photo in google search query and find all photo matching that face.

So now I just swiftly flip my back everytime I see a phone or camera being aimed.
I actually started working on some equipment to further shield me from undesired photography a few weeks ago, though that is more out of boredom and surplus electronic equipment of various sorts.
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Neddie wrote:I actually started working on some equipment to further shield me from undesired photography a few weeks ago, though that is more out of boredom and surplus electronic equipment of various sorts.
Cloaking device? I want too.
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