LEGO SPRING!

Torrasque · Post by **Torrasque** » 19 Jul 2005, 19:41

It depend of the license. If it is GPL, a cannot transforme it to an commercial product. But with BSD, you can. (windows use some BSD code, I think OSX is based on BSD too). Of course, it's a fork, and the "old" stay with the BSD license.

Of course, you can sell your product with the GPL, like Linux distributions, but it stay on GPL, so you must distribute the source with it.

Sheekel · Post by **Sheekel** » 19 Jul 2005, 19:43

hmmm...lets stay on topic.

I really like the models they are using for Machinations (sp?)

Ive only got 4 done for this mod, so if you want to help please do!

PauloMorfeo · Post by **PauloMorfeo** » 20 Jul 2005, 18:32

zwzsg wrote:What? Machinations suddendly went from open-source to commercial? Is that even possible? Makes me fear for Spring!

Well, for Spring to become comercial, it would have to have it's own set of units. I mean, they could not go comercial shiping the TA set of units... Nor shipping just the engine, probably.
And they having they're own set of units, seems far away... Not to mention a set of units with quality enough to make the game comercial...

Torrasque wrote:It depend of the license. If it is GPL, a cannot transforme it to an commercial product. ...

I'm not 100% sure, as things are complicated but, in the description of GPL, in
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
you have:

GNU General Public License wrote:...
When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price.
...

For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must give the recipients all the rights that you have. ...

Kixxe · Post by **Kixxe** » 21 Jul 2005, 12:14

My idea this is, yes

Posted bye Kixxe

I long have a tougt of a REAL lego mod...

All the units would first be modeld bye me(or anyone with lego) and then made into a 3d model. Then we would make it into a unit, and volia!
When they explode, lego bits fly all over the place, and the corpse if a pile of lego bits.

I also thougt that buildings would have legos on them, and they would all have cool animations, like a solar collector and a sun bading lego ''man'' (wtf are they called in english?). Or a metal extraktor with a lego ''man?'' hanging on the spinning thing, who spins round and round and round and round... Plus, all units that where contoled bye lego men should have visilbole lego men on them, and buildings would be ither ''built'' bye falling lego bits that peices that land ontop of each other. (or normaly... dunno?)

Am i crazy? Proably, but i love lego^^

I still like the ''make a lego model'' idea. Anyone who gots some spare time, try making one and sending them to...

Umm, should we send them to you, Sheekel?

I currenlty have a 1 decimeter long k-bot looking thing, who can move his limbs and detach his head. Plus, a hatch to open the head with the lego man inside^^ (it's built sideways thou... meaning what's normaly ''up'' is right on him)

to bad i dont got a digital camera... it's really cool in my eyes.

I would BTW love to help, but i can't model anything more then a cube, and a cube ontop of a cube with a cirkel around it or something.

I got lotsa ideas, and i can work pretty good with flash...
And lego, offcourse.

its not lego , its LEGO(tm) vs K'Nex(tm)!!!

Maybe you werent a huge of them. I would make this mod for me and the others who want it. i think changing some models and weapons wont be too difficult. I already have 3 models done

for those of you who like the idea, do you think the old Ta models should be used, but made to look more lego-ey.....or should unique units be made?

I dunno with knex... it never got really big. How about LEGO vs Non lego allys?

Bionicole, slicer , K'nex and technical lego has come to remove every single Lego peice from the face of the erath.

LEGO (tm) Kroggie! :D

I wonder how many boxes of lego THAT would half to be built of...

Hmm...

Min3mat · Post by **Min3mat** » 21 Jul 2005, 16:42

technical LEGO MUST be the bad guys!!! they'd look AWESOME!!!! and the kroggie could be LEGOs...a GIANT lego man with a innocent looking umrella and jetpack! :D

Kixxe · Post by **Kixxe** » 22 Jul 2005, 14:54

hmmm...lets stay on topic.

I really like the models they are using for Machinations (sp?)

Ive only got 4 done for this mod, so if you want to help please do!

I wonder if we even have a mod yet... I mean, so far only 2-3 pepole seams to be intrested in MAKING a mod... And this thread is very silent.

Intrested in this mod? Intrested egnuff to help out? Speak up!
You dont even have to be a programer or 3d artist to help!

All the units would first be modeld bye me(or anyone with lego) and then made into a 3d model.

On some we could skip the whole lego model part, but models are really helpfull.

Weaver · Post by **Weaver** » 23 Jul 2005, 01:04

I looked down my son's box of k'nex and found a few of our models built for k'nex TA. Here one, is he about right? or does he need more/less pieces, more articulation etc?

[K.B.] Napalm Cobra · Post by **[K.B.] Napalm Cobra** » 23 Jul 2005, 02:23

Legs need to be longer and have a knee.

Kixxe · Post by **Kixxe** » 23 Jul 2005, 09:53

I love it! Im thinking assualt k-bot with lotsa armour. Lvl 2, offcourse.

Think right about now we need simple models more then complex ones. Lvl 1 first right?

Oh, and could i se shots from the side and behind? otherwise, really cool bot you have there.

I think ill start constukt some bots to, just gotta finish a phew things.

And where in hell is Sheekel?

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 23 Jul 2005, 10:04

The only problem is that K'NEXXXXXXXXS (eXtream version!) really hurts my fingers, expecesially when they are new... and hard to click!

Also my freind, who i will call.... uhh...

Extrimist Patriot Soldier Army Freak... or EPSAF!

so Epsaf really like's to build guns with lego's. A good example would be that after he whatched Aliens he build a assult rifle that WAS the assult rifle from aliens! It was a great replica, and it had a magazein that could be removed by pressing a button that pushed it out!

Epsaf also made a m16, and useing a rubber band, he created it so you could acuratly load it like a real m16. Only problem is if you hit it too hard, it fall's apart (kindof like a REAL m16!). Now he has a real m16 bayonet, and can attach it to the lego one. Just dont tell the police, because its illigal to have a two sided knife!

Just so you know how extream Epsaf is... he bought a 25 pound AA shell and use's it as a book stop! He also has a combat knife, several army helments and a massive army jaket with a huge amounts of buttons. Epsaf also has a pervading oder of cheese that constantly pervade's the air around him.

But this LEGO idea sounds really cool! Why is it in the development forum? I would think it should be in the Mod forum!

Weaver · Post by **Weaver** » 24 Jul 2005, 01:49

Thanks for the comments I'll post some more pics tomorrow,

[K.B.] Napalm Cobra wrote:Legs need to be longer and have a knee.

Perfectly correct, adding a knee is no problem, he was built with stability more than future animation in mind.

With that in mind do you think we should make mechanically accurate joints or cheat a little and allow some parts to bend for the sake of looks and simplicity?

Neuralize · Post by **Neuralize** » 24 Jul 2005, 08:41

Only $20 USD, however.

Furthermore, this thread should be dropped until a later date.

Sheekel · Post by **Sheekel** » 25 Jul 2005, 22:14

ok sorry i was away for a while

That pic of the knex bot looks good, but its made of a Sh!t load of polygons. All of these ideas are great....but i need more ideas. Send me pics of bots and tanks and i can model them and we can get started!

Also, is there anyone who knows WTF they are doing in the scripts. I can write a basic tank script but i cant do jack-all with bots or structures. Could any of u programmers out there who can work with units give a hand?

Sheekel · Post by **Sheekel** » 25 Jul 2005, 22:56

here is a basic tank that i made in 3ds max.
My Rhino program isnt working so it sucks (does anyone know how to crack the 25 save trial limit? on my older computer i didnt need to worry about it but then the hard drive failed

....i love Rhino and actually know what im doing in it. 3ds max is far to complicated for making 70-poly TA madels. I need a crack.. i know MAD TA had one once but i cant find it. Help!)

http://img28.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lego8kv.jpg

Delta · Post by **Delta** » 26 Jul 2005, 00:20

a Brawler compared to cavedog render

Created using Blockcad
don't know the polycount, but atleast its all orginal lego pieces.

Delta · Post by **Delta** » 26 Jul 2005, 00:43

Zeus

Delta · Post by **Delta** » 26 Jul 2005, 01:01

Fido
http://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fido0ks.jpg
Mabye a bit out of scale...

Kixxe · Post by **Kixxe** » 26 Jul 2005, 09:57

I think you just found what program to use when making the lego side...

Further discussion should be held in the treadh in mod's section...

http://taspring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1775

Thats a long name for a treahd btw...

Delta · Post by **Delta** » 26 Jul 2005, 12:37

Kixxe wrote:I think you just found what program to use when making the lego side...
...

note that this program cant export to any useful format and can only be used for designing pourposes.

Spring RTS Engine

LEGO SPRING!

K'NEX dood