Minimap at bottom? how?

[AF]

When a car mirror is mis-aligned, do you issue a recall and have the customer send their car back only to get brand new mirrors that have a new angle in them?

Or does the person in the car reach out and turn the mirror a little and carry on as usual?

[smoth]

dude, why do you go of into complete left field anaolgies that have nothing to do with the issue at hand.

He cannot move the mini with going and doing a potentially dangerous operation editing is registry. it is moments like this that remind me why I cannot understand what spring stores shit in the registry. So rather than address the issue you tell him adjust his monitor. Why not discuss how to fix the issue?

[lurker]

The issue is the minimap being distorted.

[smoth]

I know the reason is that it is because the screen is darker because of his lcd, my point is that it is still people should be able to move the minimap which is all he asked to do.

[TradeMark]

lol AF whats your problem? trying to lock my thread? lmao.

im not moving my screen, it is already in its perfect altitude etc, but the top of the screen just gets darker, even when my eyes are pointing in the middle of the screen. If i want to see the top side of my screen with as even colors as possible, i must watch at the edge of the top of the screen, so i would have to remove my screen stand completely to make it possible, but when i do that, then my bottom of the screen will be lighter, and i dont like that, actually i like that even less than the darkening.

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Any screen suggestions? im going to buy better screen anyways, with 2560x1600 resolution at least, not bigger than 30", and with good stand, at least 100Hz refresh rate with v-sync, im pissed off about this 60FPS feeling here (pls dont say i cant see difference from 60fps to 100fps). And colors shouldnt be distorted by viewing angle at all...

Damn LCD's... whats the next better technology? is it OLED? but they flicker like CRT... at least those which ive seen :/

[Argh]

<shrugs> I've said, on several occasions, that Spring should not be using the Registry, that it's bad and yucky and just plain silly, for an application where we can and should it expect people to install it in more than one location on their computer, maybe different versions, etc., etc.

And it's really stupid that something like the Minimap is there, and only there. I'll talk to Koshi, see about putting that into SpringSettings for an interim fix.

[trepan]

minimap_relative.lua
(I think it was in SVN at one point)

[REVENGE]

minimap_relative.lua
(I think it was in SVN at one point)

I believe it has already been included in several Spring releases. However, it prevents you from resizing the mini-map on the fly using the control icons, iirc.

[trepan]

IIRC, it only applies changes during Initialize() and ViewResize()
call-ins (so you can still resize it). It would also be easy to have
the widget kill itself after initialization.

[REVENGE]

IIRC, it only applies changes during Initialize() and ViewResize()
call-ins (so you can still resize it). It would also be easy to have
the widget kill itself after initialization.

Mmm yep, you're right.

Trademark: use it.

[TradeMark]

yay, i made it in the bottom, but its not perfectly at bottom, the buttons stops it, so i need to switch the minimap buttons at the top side of the minimap, how?

Edit: how i can remove borders from the buildpics?
example:

[REVENGE]

Check in F11 to see if BA Layout is turned on. If it is, you should have normal BA styled borderless icons. If you want to modify your default settings, go to the LuaUI folder and edit ctrlpanel.txt.

EDIT: Oh, for the default config, you need to edit layout.lua that's in LuaUI and find the following lines:

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-- for DefaultHandler
local FrameTex   = "bitmaps/icons/frame_slate_128x96.png"
local FrameScale = "&0x0&" --"&0.099x0.132&"
local PageNumTex = "bitmaps/circularthingy.tga"

The important line being:

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local FrameScale = "&0x0&" --"&0.099x0.132&"

where you can see I've changed the FrameScale to 0x0, and the previous value is commented out.

[TradeMark]

oh, nice, no wonder i didnt find that :D "FrameScale" doesnt really say its a border...

Now if i could change the background images too? i noticed they points in "springcontent.sdz" file, and if i change it, i get desynced?

Or can i change the path like:

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local FrameTex   = "../myownfolder/frame_slate_nicer_128x96.png"

[Caradhras]

we need a graphical gui editor...

how are the configs stored on linux?

[AF]

Ah in that case its a bad viewing angle, by that I mean the range of viewing angles to clearly see the monitor is too small.

I would suggest a TV. I have a 37" 1080p lcd TV on my main computer and I don't have those sorts of issues, I can sit back in bed and surf the web or watch stuff its great ^_^

Sadly, if you want that resolution though you'll need two cables for your monitor, since the maximum resolution supported by dvi/hdmi cables is 1920x1080 60Hz, any higher and there simply isn't enough bandwidth to send the data across, hence why the 30" Dell monitor has 2 DVI cables. I seriously doubt anybody on these forums has display port.

So it might be better to buy 2 monitors and get 3840x1080.

As for OLED, they shouldn't flicker, hmmmm, I cant really comment on that.

[Masure]

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Any screen suggestions? im going to buy better screen anyways, with 2560x1600 resolution at least, not bigger than 30", and with good stand, at least 100Hz refresh rate with v-sync, im pissed off about this 60FPS feeling here (pls dont say i cant see difference from 60fps to 100fps). And colors shouldnt be distorted by viewing angle at all...

Damn LCD's... whats the next better technology? is it OLED? but they flicker like CRT... at least those which ive seen :/

95% of LCD market is field with shitty TN panel. TN gives good responsiveness but bad contrast and crappy view angle. When testers say that colors are good on TN panels, they're testing it at different points on the screen but on the normal angle. As you noticed, your sight implies a minor angle when looking at different points of the screen and that's enough to show the poor quality of TN panels.

That said, IPS, PVA or MVA panels are giving way better results concerning view angle and color consistency. But as people like shit the market is flooded with TN that's why IPS/PVA/MVA are expensive. But don't dream about them, these kinds of panel also have drawbacks. It's all a matter of choice (Black depth, contrast, responsiveness, angle of view, color fidelity, color uniformity).

Here is a good summary in this french (sorry) article : http://www.lesnumeriques.com/article-438.html

Hope that will help

[REVENGE]

They need to replace TN panels with Sharp's ASV.

[TradeMark]

Ah in that case its a bad viewing angle, by that I mean the range of viewing angles to clearly see the monitor is too small.

I would suggest a TV. I have a 37" 1080p lcd TV on my main computer and I don't have those sorts of issues, I can sit back in bed and surf the web or watch stuff its great ^_^

I doubt i can watch the screen very far away if i surf on the net, or chat etc. or my eyes gets very tired after 8 hours day...

Sadly, if you want that resolution though you'll need two cables for your monitor, since the maximum resolution supported by dvi/hdmi cables is 1920x1080 60Hz, any higher and there simply isn't enough bandwidth to send the data across, hence why the 30" Dell monitor has 2 DVI cables. I seriously doubt anybody on these forums has display port.

Are you sure about that maximum bandwidth? since there are screens with 1920x1200, and need only one cable, and: 1920*1080*2 > 2560*1600 < 1920*1200*2

So it might be better to buy 2 monitors and get 3840x1080.

I dont want any gaps in between, and they wouldnt fit on my desk, and i need to rotate it in 90 degrees every once in a while, if i want to do that with 2 screens, i would have to rip off their frames, build some thing which holds them together, etc. too complicated.

As for OLED, they shouldn't flicker, hmmmm, I cant really comment on that.

Well, ive seen OLEDs on cellphone screens, and navigator screens, though, i havent been able to see inside of that navigator, so im not 100% sure is it OLED, but it flickers too... Maybe they can make them without flickering, but doesnt, if it saves energy.

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What about this screen:
http://www.eizo.se/eizo/smpage.fwx?smla ... oduct=1656
It seems to have good features. and not TN panel of course...

I want a screen which is great in video and images, and has 2560x1600 resolution.
Is it possible?

[AF]

Indeed ti seems what I was told is slightly innacurate, the maximum resolution that can be sent down a single DVI cable is 1920x1200 not 1920x1080, and there are sisues with dual-DVI cables.

As for giant TVs, I have a 37", and its fine, you forget, the pixels are physically larger, and the TV is built to be seen from a distance not close up otherwise people would not see the details as clearly and the television wouldn't be bought. If anything its clearer than my 20" LCD monitor because the colors are brighter and there's greater contrast/depth.

My one issue is I have the webcam on th top and I look tiny on it and have to get closer and then I have to move my head, so I need to figure out where I'm going to move that to. And of course there's the cost too.

It might also be worth looking at smaller ~20" TVs, here at work I have a 1080p 20" TV that runs fine at close range.

[lurker]

Indeed ti seems what I was told is slightly innacurate, the maximum resolution that can be sent down a single DVI cable is 1920x1200 not 1920x1080

That's true all the way up at 120hz. I think you might be confusing dual link with dual cables (which would each be dual link or you're doing something wrong). At 60hz you can push 2560 ├âÔÇö 1600 over a single cable (actually you might be able to push that rez at 75 if you have the right setup).