Bahrainian TV: How to properly beat your wife.

[Muzic]

I'm sure there are plenty of Islamic clerics out there that disagree with this guy.

But doesn't their culture as a whole somewhat accept the actions of beating your wives?

[rattle]

I'm sure there are plenty of Islamic clerics out there that disagree with this guy.

On the no face or breaking bones part?

[PicassoCT]

Interesting how silent those other Clerics state there Protest - and how loud the masses in the street rage against this disgusting TV-Advice...

If a Danish Cartoonist pictures this Scenes into a Cartoon, and prints them, no further coments... guess they would find Volunteers for Protests...

[Comp1337]

We need foxeh for this discussion

[Dragon45]

indeed

bahrahinaian mothafucker

or mothabeata in this case

[smoth]

I think he is saying that if you MUST do it that those are some guidelines. The bit at the end saying that you will be judged though is fair enough.

[smoth]

point of clobbering

OH YEAH!

[Saktoth]

You're all idiots. It is ridiculous to criticize the man in this video for what he says here.

He is clearly saying: Dont beat your wife. Dont break her bones, dont bruise her, dont make her bleed, dont even slap her in front of the kids, and if you even hurt her: Allah holds you accountable. Even if your wife forgives you- you should not do it!

Sounds like pretty good advice to me. There is a lot to be critical of Islam, but this is not it. Its clear that this guy is trying to get people NOT to beat their wives and speaking out against those who do.

This is also a translation and its hard to know precisely the wording, but in this translation it is implicit that you are allowed to slap or cause pain to your wife (worse things have happened in the bedroom!) as long as you dont injure her, but in a country where spousal abuse may be relatively common and accepted, a man saying 'Dont injure her and never in front of the kids' is a positive message.

Go after the ones who say blow up Jews and Americans, and the ones who say 'Beat your wife, its your right and duty to correct her.' not the ones who say 'Beat your wife LESS.'

'If she has been hurt, the husband is held liable for what he has done because the woman is not his merchandise. He cannot do whatever he wants to her. Even if the wife forgives the husband.'

He could be quoting from a bloody feminist text here! Even in WESTERN countries the abused can (and OFTEN does) choose not to press charges if they've been beaten. It sounds to me like we could do to listen to this advice, too.

As has been said, divorce is as easy as saying 'I divorce you' three times, in Islam. Islam is renowned for how easy it is to get a divorce. Its Catholocism that doesnt allow divorce.

Of course as has also been said, in some of these cultures (not the whole islamic world...) as a divorcee you become a social outcast and have to beg on the streets because women cant work etc, but you can still get divorced...

[Forboding Angel]

This just in! Saktoth to announce support for beating wife to bloody pulp!

The man in the vid was a nutjob. You don't HAVE to beat anyone unless your life is in danger or you are in danger of serious injury.

There is an exception of when you are modding and she won't shut the fuck up, at which point bloody pulp is merciful


For those who just can't "get it" no matter how hard you try...
/satire

[CarRepairer]

Saktoth beats us whenever we disagree with him in CA. He left me for dead in the gutter. I will never speak out again

[pharoph]

this is politics but with swearing. lots and lots of swearing. dont you guys every use fancy jokes that harm the enemy but only adults under stand? i just had a translator idea.

[PicassoCT]

Allah holds you accountable.

Can imagine that JudgmentDay- very well, i see you beatherup ever day, well you did everything as it was written down in my holly book, proceed.

As has been said, divorce is as easy as saying 'I divorce you' three times, in Islam. Islam is renowned for how easy it is to get a divorce. Its Catholocism that doesnt allow divorce.

Funny you mention this, because as far as i know the Easygetridof only works one way, if a Man wants to be divorced. If a Woman wants to get a divorce, she has to take her case to the local Mullah, and (Not allowed to work, drive cars, and so on) this means poverty after that, social isolation (in a society were family means everything).. there are plenty of cases were woman comit Suicide, even by burning themselfes.. don´t think they did it for romantic living candlelight...

Of course as has also been said in some of these cultures (not the whole islamic worlds...) as a divorcee you become a social outcast and have to beg on the streets because women cant work etc, but you can still get divorced...

Oh, quote to myself- always read others Posts to the very end, before Ragerepyling...

Still no noble Wilds out there, just usual Human BehaviourBullshit, wrapped in diffrent Cutlures...

[Saktoth]

Muslims say nutty, stupid, CRAZY stuff all the time.

'Dont beat your wife so much, never injure her, never in front of the kids' barely qualifies as a blip.

[rattle]

What about falcon punch? Can you falcon punch her?

[Dragon45]

if they are marth and counter the falcon punch (A PURELY DEFENSIVE MOVE) then they will hurt you as well

i recommend shooting laers instead
pew pew falco

[SwiftSpear]

Wait, did people actually get mad at this guy? Granted the implication that if you don't hurt her much, beating your wife is ok is pretty damn uncomfortable to the western mindset... But that's reality in Muslim countries. Hell, beating your wife is validated in the Koran, much the way slavery is validated in the bible.

This priest is responding to that culture, he's trying to find a safe middle ground to minimize the damage. He's directly addressing people who he believes to be beating their wives on a regular basis, he's not addressing muslims who already accept the western standard of not touching their spouses aggressively ever. He's not trying to encourage people to beat their wives in the slightest, the reality is, many people aren't going to be willing to hear someone say "the Koran is wrong, you can't beat your wife at all" at this point in time, so he's saying the same thing in the only way he really can.

[tombom]

Have you ever read the bible?

serious question

you might be surprised at just what it tells you to do that nobody does anymore

it's mostly a culture thing

[clumsy_culhane]

Have you ever read the bible?

serious question

you might be surprised at just what it tells you to do that nobody does anymore

it's mostly a culture thing

I think tombom is correct. Most of the old testement civil law was based on the culture of that time. Also, When jesus came, he fulfilled the law set out in Old Testament. Quoting from Matthew :

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished" (Matthew 5:17-18)

Jesus did not here suggest that the binding nature of the law of Moses would remain forever in effect. Such a view would contradict everything we learn from the balance of the New Testament record (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15).

Back to main topic.

I think the Islamic regligion/culture as a whole are way out of line on this issue. The Koran may endorse it, but in this day and age I dont see how you could morally justify the physical abuse (leaving aside the whole young marraige and female circumsision and female opression issues) of the women.

[Wolf-In-Exile]

Ok, this shows that sometimes, religion can and will fuck with your capacity for rational, logical thought. I'm all for having a healthy amount of faith, but people should have a stronger grip on reality.

The very act of beating results in causing harm and pain to others. it is physically impossible to beat someone and not cause harm, unless you're using nerf bats or pillows, and i'm sure that cleric doesn't mean using soft objects to put the smackdown on wifey there.

There isn't much grey areas when it comes to beatings, and they range from "mildly painful" to "broken bones and organs".

I read an article some time ago similar to this, which told Muslims to "gently" beat their wives. Suffice to say, reading that gave much lulz and win.

[PicassoCT]

So if i am scared of the love of my life after a drunken nightly return, i can use the MC Gyver Roundhousekick on her? Were is Mekka and does the Springboard count as Witness ?

Sorry Swift, i am shure you could find a Cannibalshaman who would give it´s people good TV-Chiefcook diet Advises and Instructions How-to-serve-Man, you could say they would eat even less healthy without that Tips.. and still we (or at least I) would see it as a babaric downgrade of culture.
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