BA Chickens! (from CA)

[KDR_11k]

KP is public domain, you don't need to go GPL to use its material.

[Lumpy]

so if chickens came out for XTA or 1945

mods that arent seen as a direct threat to CA's aspirations..

then no body would have a problem?

[Machiosabre]

someone has a problem?

[quantum]

Not the authors.
The scripts are GPL, the artwork is public domain. There are no other conditions. This means BA can use chickens as legitimately as CA.

[smoth]

/thread

[Regret]

Updated first post.

New version V1.04: chickens should be easier to beat now without having to start behind a choke point.

[Forboding Angel]

and its easier to contribute to CA than any other project

I call... "BULLSHIT!"

http://trac2.assembla.com/EvolutionRTS

[Machiosabre]

you know the next reply is going to be: "easiest project to contribute to that's played", why do this to yourself?

[Otherside]

and its easier to contribute to CA than any other project

I call... "BULLSHIT!"

http://trac2.assembla.com/EvolutionRTS

u still havent proved anything :/

CA has svn and trac and such a huge team with commit rights that if u have made sumthing worthwhile even if u dont have commit access there will be at least 5 people online who can commit it for u

and i did not try to make this a mod competition in that aspect

[Teutooni]

While the idea of GPL is that if you give something away for free and other people edit it, you can then take their improvements and use them benefiting both of you, and mostly the exchange has been one-way in that regard, especially with BA.

Ehm, correct me if I'm wrong - didn't CA start off as a BA variant?

Anyway, great job with the chickens. This might help lure single player people to the lobby to play co-op and eventually against humans (if such people even exist, spring being as tricky as it is).

[Forboding Angel]

and its easier to contribute to CA than any other project

I call... "BULLSHIT!"

http://trac2.assembla.com/EvolutionRTS

u still havent proved anything :/

CA has svn and trac and such a huge team with commit rights that if u have made sumthing worthwhile even if u dont have commit access there will be at least 5 people online who can commit it for u

and i did not try to make this a mod competition in that aspect

Evolution RTS has an svn/trac to which I just showed. My huge team consists of Lurker and Myself. Name the last time you didn't see Lurker in the lobby? That's right, because he never leaves, and he rarely sleeps.

Are you unaware of how svn works? Make a Patch, just like spring svn devs do that don't have commit access. Do you honestly think that I would do a blind commit anyway? The answer is no, and you would be right if you thought that. DO you think that the CA team that has commit access would blindly commit something? THe answer to that is also no. You can email it to me, post it on the forums as an attachment, and about a zillion other ways to get it to me.

SO your argument just happens to be COMPLETELY NULL AND VOID


@machio
Spring forum users are VERY FAR away from my target audience. If you paid closer attention you would know that (tho tbh it would have been somewhat easy to miss unless you just happened to be lucky enough to read all of my posts, but top my credit, I have made that fact painfully obvious and public).

So I'm not doing anything to myself. I don't think I even could get my feelings hurt via this forum as I'm not even catering to the people here.

Suffice it to say... Chicken = Cool


Edit: And this just so happens to be a perfect example - http://www.gamereplays.org/community/in ... pic=370899

The website recorded a massive spike in unique hits the next day (over 200). The downloads page was the second most clicked on page, which was only second to the eyecandy page.


On a more humorous note, I probably ended up feeding BA a lot of players hehehe (If you don't freaking get it don't ask, I'm not going to explain simple jokes to people /me stares at peet).

[KDR_11k]

Forb, let's just mention that Tired and Yan have commit access to CA...

[Peet]

hahaha comedic gold

[smoth]

split and NUKE PLEASE!

[Regret]

split and NUKE PLEASE!

Ya rly, gtfo from my thread newbs.

[NOiZE]

This is great, thanks regret for porting, and the chicken team for making chicken.

[SwiftSpear]

CA has tonnes of content originally created by modders not in the CA team, every spring mod has content worked up by other modders. We've been by and enlarge a community where modders share work lucidly for a long time. Hell, the chicken model and concept was originally created by KDR, who I know for a fact never signed any release saying it was to be used by CA exclusively. additionally, chickens has been distributed to several other mods directly by CA development, including gundam and evolution as well, it's not exclusive to CA in even the most remote sense.

I understand that the outcry here is in response to what is perceived as the most popular mod "stealing" from a competitor, but ultimately, the ramifications of what is being argued are absolutely sickening. The idea that content produced by several different modders in conjunction somehow magically becomes exclusive property of the first mod that has it running is disturbing, and especially more so it's disturbing that the sum of the community doesn't consider sharing of said content positive for the community as a whole.

Now, if one modder creates something and specifically renders it under a restrictive license, I consider that different, but unless specifically stated, in a place like this it's FAR more beneficial for everyone that work done is as often as possible made available to anyone who can make good use out of it.

[1v0ry_k1ng]

and especially more so it's disturbing that the sum of the community doesn't consider sharing of said content positive for the community as a whole.

well... I dont think it is, is it?
Its kind of like the situation where you have a town full of small shops, each offering a diffrent service.
Then, a tesco or other huge supermarket appears and sells every service and product offered by the smaller shops.
the smaller shops are knocked right out of buisness.

If BA steals the most popular features of CA, thats alot of its selling point already shot in the foot. Im sure its legal etc but that dosnt mean its very nice..

[Peet]

I hereby reserve the use of the Spring engine for the exclusive use of Simbase and any other game content packages that I may create. Any breach of the above decree will result in the permanent ban from the Internet and the unmuzzling of my legion of irritating fanboys.

[quantum]

Hell, the chicken model and concept was originally created by KDR, who I know for a fact never signed any release saying it was to be used by CA exclusively.

The idea that content produced by several different modders in conjunction somehow magically becomes exclusive property of the first mod that has it running is disturbing.

KDR created the first Chicken model and released it as public domain before Chicken mode was ever dreamed up. The idea and implementation of the Chickens game design were made by the CA team. It is entirely within our rights to make all the other chickens and the scripts, cob and Lua, exclusive to CA. Making them available to other mods is our choice.