Post 4190! (and Death Note stuff)

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 15 Sep 2007, 17:05

Canada doesn't make TV or movies very much... Although like Australia, many movies are shot here. I think it was Silent Hill...? Yeah Silent Hill was shot in my city. Didn't really need to do any modifications to the areas it was shot in, LOL! My city's got an entire section that's been dead since the 80s. It's picking up again now...

Panda · Post by **Panda** » 15 Sep 2007, 22:53

hunterw wrote:i dont get anime

dragon ball z was kinda kewl when i was like 12 and shit but srsly

i mean comon

I haven't watched Deathnote in a while and don't like the anime geek mentality, but anime is definantly not all for little kids. Would you say that this lady from Golden Boy sitting naked on a motercycle she calls Beemo Baby and saying, "Could you turn a mouthful of gasoline into pure savage fury?" is kiddy?

Then there are animes like "Voices of a Distant Star" and "She and Her Cat" by Makoto Shinkai that are well made and definantly don't have a kiddy theme to them. I bet that there are even a lot of adults out there who can't figure out what's wrong with the girl in the anime.

*Warning, Spoiler*

She could be sick. Notice the cut scene to the medical supplies and needle.

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SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 15 Sep 2007, 22:56

Ya, but dragon ball Z was a pretty immature comic. Even the original dragon ball made dragon ball Z look dumb.

Panda · Post by **Panda** » 15 Sep 2007, 23:04

I think the whole Dragon Ball series was based on some sort of Japanese myth, but I didn't find it to be very interesting either. I did just say that anime is not all for little kids, not that there wasn't a lot of kids anime out there.

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 16 Sep 2007, 00:23

Don't forget about Sailor Moon, needs a strong stomach to survive an episode or two...

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 16 Sep 2007, 00:59

The reason the only anime you're familiar with is Sailor Moon and DBZ is because we as a culture are used to animated stuff being for kids, so therefore we only import kid shows.

Actually if I understand it right, Sailor Moon was rather... adult... when it was originally made. It was dubbed and edited to be so exlusively kiddy.

Mainstream Japanese TV consists of a great deal of animated shows. Think about it... what can you convey with humans that you can't convey with animated characters? If anything, you can be dramatically more expressive and retakes are far easier, if necessary at all. Editing can be done more easily. Actors cost less. It's easier to produce. You don't need a massive studio and tons of equipment. There's no special effects needed. Things that would be too dangerous to get actors to do in real life can be done. There's no such thing as bad makeup. Fight scenes don't look fake. The benefits are manifold.

The only thing you can legitimately say AGAINST anime is that it's not what we're used to. But once you've watched a couple of high-quality shows, with an open mind, it doesn't seem so alien.

I'll say it once more: Most anime sucks ass. But just like what we're used to from domestic television, there are a few gems of great quality that shouldn't be missed. You're really missing out on quality entertainment if you just write it all off as "those goofy japanese cartoons". How many times have you wished there was something quality to watch during the summer re-run break?

Neuralize · Post by **Neuralize** » 16 Sep 2007, 02:27

Trigun
Outlaw Star
Cowboy Bebop
Ghost in the Shell
Jin-Roh
Bubble Gum Crisis
Akira
Spirited Away
Princess Mononoke

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 16 Sep 2007, 03:07

Caydr wrote:Canada doesn't make TV or movies very much... Although like Australia, many movies are shot here. I think it was Silent Hill...? Yeah Silent Hill was shot in my city. Didn't really need to do any modifications to the areas it was shot in, LOL! My city's got an entire section that's been dead since the 80s. It's picking up again now...

Yes we do. The Vancouver film industry is huge. Not compared to Hollywood, sure, but quite a bit larger than any other north American film industry. The only other flim industry in the world that's comparable to Hollywood is in Japan.

Dragon45 · Post by **Dragon45** » 16 Sep 2007, 03:56

Bollywood is biggest film industry. nothing else comes close.

stilicho · Post by **stilicho** » 16 Sep 2007, 04:43

SwiftSpear wrote:
Caydr wrote:Canada doesn't make TV or movies very much... Although like Australia, many movies are shot here. I think it was Silent Hill...? Yeah Silent Hill was shot in my city. Didn't really need to do any modifications to the areas it was shot in, LOL! My city's got an entire section that's been dead since the 80s. It's picking up again now...
Yes we do. The Vancouver film industry is huge. Not compared to Hollywood, sure, but quite a bit larger than any other north American film industry. The only other flim industry in the world that's comparable to Hollywood is in Japan.

I think Caydr meant we don't produce much of our own media in Canada. I think that's about right. Most of the production in Vancouver and Toronto is for American movies and television shows, not Canadian ones (when was the last time you watched a Canadian film in a theatre, or saw an add for one on tv?).

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 16 Sep 2007, 04:50

stilicho wrote:
SwiftSpear wrote:
Caydr wrote:Canada doesn't make TV or movies very much... Although like Australia, many movies are shot here. I think it was Silent Hill...? Yeah Silent Hill was shot in my city. Didn't really need to do any modifications to the areas it was shot in, LOL! My city's got an entire section that's been dead since the 80s. It's picking up again now...
Yes we do. The Vancouver film industry is huge. Not compared to Hollywood, sure, but quite a bit larger than any other north American film industry. The only other flim industry in the world that's comparable to Hollywood is in Japan.
I think Caydr meant we don't produce much of our own media in Canada. I think that's about right. Most of the production in Vancouver and Toronto is for American movies and television shows, not Canadian ones (when was the last time you watched a Canadian film?).

Well, you'd have to define "Canadian" film pretty strictly... Most films made here aren't credited as "Canadian", and they are generally puplished under American publishers. That doesn't mean they aren't made here though, in large part by Canadian film companies. It's not just the filming that is contracted out here because we have nice locations or something, we acctually have quite active studios in Canada.

Superbad for example, filmed and written in Canada with many Canadian actors. Not strictly a "Canadian" film though...

stilicho · Post by **stilicho** » 16 Sep 2007, 05:14

SwiftSpear wrote:
stilicho wrote:
SwiftSpear wrote: ...
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Well, you'd have to define "Canadian" film pretty strictly... Most films made here aren't credited as "Canadian", and they are generally puplished under American publishers. That doesn't mean they aren't made here though, in large part by Canadian film companies. It's not just the filming that is contracted out here because we have nice locations or something, we acctually have quite active studios in Canada.

Superbad for example, filmed and written in Canada with many Canadian actors. Not strictly a "Canadian" film though...

I'd define a Canadian film as "produced in Canada, financed by Canadian investors, with the majority of profits staying in the country, and with a primarily Canadian target audience." Though one or two of those things could be absent.

Kixxe · Post by **Kixxe** » 16 Sep 2007, 10:57

About the Death Note Light being a death god and such and such.

Not gonna happen. It would destroy whole point of the ending, that Light was corrupted by the Death Note and in the end would have been much better off without it. And Light deserved nothing else then what he got. The author clearly went for a pure dark ending, so no more Death Note.

Death Note is dead, get over it.

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 16 Sep 2007, 11:13

stilicho wrote:I'd define a Canadian film as "produced in Canada, financed by Canadian investors, with the majority of profits staying in the country, and with a primarily Canadian target audience." Though one or two of those things could be absent.

There are alot more of those than you'd think. Most of them are never advertised as "Canadian" though, since the primary market is in the states.

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 16 Sep 2007, 13:04

well apparently moomins are anime.
i liked moomins.

Therefore i like anime?

Machiosabre · Post by **Machiosabre** » 16 Sep 2007, 13:34

Dragon45 wrote:Bollywood is biggest film industry. nothing else comes close.

I think you're forgetting porn.

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 16 Sep 2007, 14:33

When I say "Biggest industry" I mean in gross profits. In sheer footage produced the civilian sector dominates any commercial entity. If you make 800 1 hour long home movies but you never sell one of them you can't really claim you're a larger entity than a film studio that only ever made 4-5. Also, I can't really count people involved because for profit industry doesn't really compete in that realm, youtube has alot more people involved than any commercial film industry, but the youtube community is not an industry. Hiring lots of people to make small shitty films by that respect doesn't make you larger than a company who hires fewer people to film few blockbusters with massive production costs and massive sales figures.

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 16 Sep 2007, 18:29

Neuralize wrote:Trigun
Outlaw Star
Cowboy Bebop
Ghost in the Shell
Jin-Roh
Bubble Gum Crisis
Akira
Spirited Away
Princess Mononoke

I've seen 6 out of thse 10. Not bad huh.

tombom · Post by **tombom** » 16 Sep 2007, 18:32

Sleksa wrote:well apparently moomins are anime.
i liked moomins.

Therefore i like anime?

the moomins are awesome

nemppu · Post by **nemppu** » 17 Sep 2007, 17:34

stilicho wrote:
SwiftSpear wrote:
stilicho wrote: ...
Well, you'd have to define "Canadian" film pretty strictly... Most films made here aren't credited as "Canadian", and they are generally puplished under American publishers. That doesn't mean they aren't made here though, in large part by Canadian film companies. It's not just the filming that is contracted out here because we have nice locations or something, we acctually have quite active studios in Canada.

Superbad for example, filmed and written in Canada with many Canadian actors. Not strictly a "Canadian" film though...
I'd define a Canadian film as "produced in Canada, financed by Canadian investors, with the majority of profits staying in the country, and with a primarily Canadian target audience." Though one or two of those things could be absent.

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Post 4190! (and Death Note stuff)