Grammatically incorrect and annoying topicÔÇ¢ [Mature Content]

[TradeMark]

srsly the people in finland, austria and germany buying anti-rad meds should just get a fucking vasectomy instead, better for all of us.

i am sure those people who bought them are too old to have kids anyways.

also, i think they're mostly hysteric old women anyways... so vasectomy wont work XD

[Cheesecan]

Darwin awards winner.

Oh c'mon you must know that North Korea is not a serious threat to anyone. All their threats of building nukes is just a way of asking for more humanitarian aid for their poor country. They basically have no export, no industry, no nothing and rely on foreign aid to survive. The recent antagonizing on the south was just the result of a spoiled brat assuming power and wanting to show who's in charge there. They are also locked down by China who would never let anyone hurt their biggest trading partner. The biggest threat North Korea poses to the US is that of a rising international welfare bill.

nowadays, sure... but what if the USA had totally wiped out japan and then just left it to fend for itself after WW2? am i wrong to assume that japan would at this point be property either of a) unified korea b) russia or c) china? and would any of these governments put japan in a better position to be an ally of the USA? probably not (but of course this is all speculative)

although on the other hand, most north korean hatred towards the USA seems to stem from the korean war, which probably wouldn't have happened at all if not for the fact that the USA was an ally of countries in the neighbourhood and were the ones to divide korea in two in the first place after conquering japan

what a tangled web we weave

I'll leave those speculations to our alter egos in an alternative universe..
NK people hate US because the Kim Song Il personal cult says you should do so..

[BaNa]

btw forb, you lawyered me, i tip my hat. I searched before posting and found nothing. The leaflets seem to be post-hiroshima though, and this still doesnt make killing civillians ok.

[smoth]

still doesnt make killing civillians ok.

*sighs* who said it was? It is part of war.

[Hoi]

You're saying that killing civilians is ok because 'it is a part of war'. Now I know you're actually saying that it's not ok but that it's a part of war, but that translates to that it's ok if there's war.

Stop trying to justify what the usa did, the murder and crime that they have committed is terrible. However, this is over 60 years ago and the current generation has nothing to do with it.

[smoth]

murder and crime

opinion.

[KaiserJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_N-wNFSGyQ

boom boom boom boom, i want you in my room...

[Hoi]

murder and crime

opinion.

>250.000 innocent civilians killed by the us government that allowed and ordered the dropping of nukes on them

Opinion? Nope, it's a fact. Except if you want to argue that killing 250.000 innocent civilians is not murder and/or criminal. In that case, good luck.

[smoth]

Could have nuked a military installation instead of 2 civilian cities...

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_were_Hiro ... c_bombings
google.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 650AAaYh9a

The Committee noted of Hiroshima that it was "an important army depot and port of embarkation in the middle of an urban industrial area. It is a good radar target and it is such a size that a large part of the city could be extensively damaged. There are adjacent hills which are likely to produce a focusing effect which would considerably increase the blast damage. Due to rivers it is not a good incendiary target." Hiroshima was the headquarters of not only the 5th Division but the Japanese 2nd Army. The city of Nagasaki had been one of the largest sea ports in southern Japan and was of great wartime importance because of its wide-ranging industrial activity, including the production of ordnance, ships, military equipment, and other war materials.

blah blah blah.

everytime you kill a kbot lab. you are "murdering."

[momfreeek]

you missed a bit

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_were_Hiro ... [quote]The committee rejected the use of the weapon against a strictly military objective because of the chance of missing a small target not surrounded by a larger urban area. The psychological effects on Japan were of great importance to the committee members. They also agreed that the initial use of the weapon should be sufficiently spectacular for its importance to be internationally recognized.[/quote]

[zwzsg]

Darwin awards winner.

Nope, he can still reproduce.

Darwin Award commemorates those who assist natural selection by removing themselves from the gene pool.*

Opinion? Nope, it's a fact. Except if you want to argue that killing 250.000 innocent civilians is not murder and/or criminal. In that case, good luck.

It's not murder. It's not a crime. It's war.

[SinbadEV]

murder and crime

opinion.

>250.000 innocent civilians killed by the us government that allowed and ordered the dropping of nukes on them

Opinion? Nope, it's a fact. Except if you want to argue that killing 250.000 innocent civilians is not murder and/or criminal. In that case, good luck.

The problem comes from the following false dichotomy:

Bombing civilian targets outside of war = Terrorism + Murder
Bombing civilian targets DURING war = Strategy, Acceptable Collateral Damage, Psychological Warfare tactics

The rest of us want to say "killing civilians on purpose is never okay" which is easily refuted by examples like "we put a bomb in this 10 year old's backpack and if we don't shoot him he's going to walk into our base and blow us all up"... it's just not that simple in either direction.

There has to be some limit as to what's acceptable in war, otherwise every time war breaks out the "good guys" would take it as license to rape and pillage and conquer and terrorize the "bad guys" populations... which is what we are trying to say is wrong... just because my government that I voted for (as part of the general population) is killing your women and children in an attempt to convince their men to surrender doesn't mean I personally support this decision... The way I see the average "American" is as someone so saturated in government propaganda as to feel it necessary to defend the poor choices their government made during a war 60 years ago because otherwise we can't call ourselves the "good guys" anymore...

I know that many people in the 'states have a more mature view of the situation but both the vocal majority and most of my US citizen relatives seem to be in the "anything we do has to be okay because we're the good guys" mindset.

[PicassoCT]

INB4 LOCK AND LOAD.

My country did shit, in the past, this is proofen fact. We do everything to avoid that shit in the present, and hopefully we can transfer the awareness against massmurderous behaviour patterns to the next generations (even through 25% informationloss). Also, knowing how ordinary man&woman can be turned into killing machines, im aware, that i myself, if circumstances would apply full force, wouldn┬┤t come out as a saint.

What is ridiculous is the attempt to wash said sins from once hand, with the bloody past of the slaypoorhood. Wait we killed like 6 Million Jews in ww2. But Spain and Portugal had in Amerigo 25.2 Million people slain. So this makes suma sumarum absurdum -19.2 million negative kills for germany. That is a historic problem we germans have, underkill. Gotcha Gota, tag your it.

Slapping people with history books is only usefull, if they can read at hypersonic speed, so learning something from the acumulated knowledge of human nature, presented to them. So a actually usefull reply would look like this:

We know that in many countrys, checks and balances can phail catastrophically when it comes to war or (in dictatorships) even genozide? How do we improve those mechanisms (and please realistic contributions, no moral codecs, which aint even much use as napkins for cannibals), how do we catch and oppose those trying to circumvent?
Were has fanboidom for my country to end, and watchmenshift to start? How do i prevent state and powercenters to subvert journalists, by payment, media controll and patriotims?
How do i form a international organisation, to prevent such crimes against kinkind, when half of the countrys of this world are dictatorships, who celebrate St.Batons day every year?

I see you not replyin, not even tryin, because its work that you fryin!

[SinbadEV]

INB4 LOCK AND LOAD.

My country did shit, in the past, this is proofen fact. We do everything to avoid that shit in the present, and hopefully we can transfer the awareness against massmurderous behaviour patterns to the next generations (even through 25% informationloss). Also, knowing how ordinary man&woman can be turned into killing machines, im aware, that i myself, if circumstances would apply full force, wouldn┬┤t come out as a saint.

What is ridiculous is the attempt to wash said sins from once hand, with the bloody past of the slaypoorhood. Wait we killed like 6 Million Jews in ww2. But Spain and Portugal had in Amerigo 25.2 Million people slain. So this makes suma sumarum absurdum -19.2 million negative kills for germany. That is a historic problem we germans have, underkill. Gotcha Gota, tag your it.

Slapping people with history books is only usefull, if they can read at hypersonic speed, so learning something from the acumulated knowledge of human nature, presented to them. So a actually usefull reply would look like this:

We know that in many countrys, checks and balances can phail catastrophically when it comes to war or (in dictatorships) even genozide? How do we improve those mechanisms (and please realistic contributions, no moral codecs, which aint even much use as napkins for cannibals), how do we catch and oppose those trying to circumvent?
Were has fanboidom for my country to end, and watchmenshift to start? How do i prevent state and powercenters to subvert journalists, by payment, media controll and patriotims?
How do i form a international organisation, to prevent such crimes against kinkind, when half of the countrys of this world are dictatorships, who celebrate St.Batons day every year?

I see you not replyin, not even tryin, because its work that you fryin!

Well, the end result is a small number of collaborating totalitarian world-states that convince their populations that they are at constant war with each other as described in 1984...

[hoijui]

if war makes such a difference.. lets see what war actually means.
war as you refer to it, is a paper. does that paper make a difference? who decides that? who can write that paper? can sign it, can make it legal?

nations only accept war by other nations. do not accept an other nation as legit, and it can not declare war on you, and if it does the same thing to you as you do to it, it does terror, and you in turn do war on terror, which is even more forgiving then war. you win!

it's like monopoly with one player starting as the bank, and others as normal players. just that there is no start. but the bank still always wins, it is just not always the same one in the same players hands.

maybe someone can translate it into lala dipsy talk ...
would be awesome!

Think about it!
instructions: if you feel the urge to respond to the video as in "HAHA, funny!!11", remove yourself from the gene-pool.

[Panda]

Cool video!

Here's one too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nrk8gZyfog

[1v0ry_k1ng]

Well, the end result is a small number of collaborating totalitarian world-states that convince their populations that they are at constant war with each other as described in 1984...

America has been in a constant state of psudo-war since WWII. Today, the war on 'terror'. Does that sound abstract and indefinate to you?

[SinbadEV]

Well, the end result is a small number of collaborating totalitarian world-states that convince their populations that they are at constant war with each other as described in 1984...

America has been in a constant state of psudo-war since WWII. Today, the war on 'terror'. Does that sound abstract and indefinate to you?

I'd go with frighting but, at least for the moment, we don't have to wait for chocolate rations yet and beer is still sold in pints, so I'm happy. I wonder if people in China think they are at war with the world?

[Hoi]

murder and crime

opinion.

>250.000 innocent civilians killed by the us government that allowed and ordered the dropping of nukes on them

Opinion? Nope, it's a fact. Except if you want to argue that killing 250.000 innocent civilians is not murder and/or criminal. In that case, good luck.

Just quoting myself again here to further stress my points. It's murder and 'war' does not justify this. Especially not this murder on huge scale.

Do you people who think this is ok agree with what is happening in for example Libya? Is it ok for ghadaffi to kill a lot of people, because it is war?

Or how about the war on terrorism. Assume there are 1000 potential terrorists living in america. 999 are normal people and 1 is a terrorist. You don't know who it is. Would it be alright to kill all those people, for 'safety' ? Would it be alright because it's war?

You would say no. But the fact is, you do say yes when it's not about americans but about the japaneese. And don't try to argue here, some of you just said that hiroshima was mainly attacked because it was a military target...

Hiroshima is EXACTLY the same thing as the 999 good guys 1 bad guy scenario, only on a much bigger scale.

Besides that, what the hell gives anyone the right to decide about other people's lives?

[Regret]

Dominant entity after a war is over decides what is murder and what is crime. US was dominant so no they did not commit mass murder of civilians.