0.73b1 test release 4, pretty much the final 0.73b1 version

Post by **Betalord** » 04 Oct 2006, 18:19

Pwnedbyryan wrote:I don't see size of the map listed anywhere in the battleroom. :(

Actually it is, hover your mouse over the map and hold it there for a second :)

Peet · Post by **Peet** » 04 Oct 2006, 20:49

Am I the only one who's been finding that there are a large number of games that desync?

danzel · Post by **danzel** » 05 Oct 2006, 00:54

Tobi wrote:True, guess it's this bug then:
jcnossen wrote:- tasclient searches for bots in wrong dir

I'm fairly certain this was fixed.
I have a fresh install of spring 0.73 and TASClient shows AAI in the add bots dialog.

OOmiz · Post by **OOmiz** » 05 Oct 2006, 01:11

P3374H wrote:Am I the only one who's been finding that there are a large number of games that desync?

No. We had a game with three different winners.

Pwnedbyryan · Post by **Pwnedbyryan** » 05 Oct 2006, 22:03

it would be nice to have the act of pausing re-sync the players who are out of sync, but it never quite seems to work. maybe that can be a feature for next release... a GIANT RED "re-sync" button. yayz

Post by **jcnossen** » 05 Oct 2006, 23:53

Re sync isn't implemented at all. I suspect if something causes de-sync at some part it the game, it would be very likely that it is in a part of code that will be executed in the next frame as well.
In that case if resync was implemented, you would be resyncing all the time...

Shadowfury333 · Post by **Shadowfury333** » 06 Oct 2006, 03:39

OOmiz wrote:
P3374H wrote:Am I the only one who's been finding that there are a large number of games that desync?
No. We had a game with three different winners.

Are you sure that you weren't playing Soccer?

Seriously though, I hope that this gets fixed. There's not much worse than a de-synced game, though it can sometimes provide entertainment value.

PauloMorfeo · Post by **PauloMorfeo** » 06 Oct 2006, 03:39

Resynching could mean one client saying ├é┬½look, i have a krogoth here├é┬╗, ├é┬½what? no way, your client has no krogoth! Sync error!├é┬╗ - resync - ├é┬½ho, wait, you do have a krogoth over there.├é┬╗

Anyway, it is kind of odd, because i've seen a few times a person throw a few consecutive sync errors, me thinking the game would be doomed, but have the sync errors stop after a while...

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 06 Oct 2006, 08:54

Like Caydr proposed, a console command that pauses the game and sends the host's gamestate (including e.g. the random generator state) to all clients.

HawkMan · Post by **HawkMan** » 06 Oct 2006, 11:37

The game shoudl detect desyncs and resync itself without player involvement and withotu players even noticing.

could be a simple matter of the host once every 5 seconds or so sending a ping to all clients to get a delay timsteamp, then asking for full coordinates of a set number of random untis from all clients at some exact timestamp, and if they don't match, it resyncs.

Post by **Tim Blokdijk** » 06 Oct 2006, 11:56

Write a patch

Post by **jcnossen** » 06 Oct 2006, 14:21

Anyway, it is kind of odd, because i've seen a few times a person throw a few consecutive sync errors, me thinking the game would be doomed, but have the sync errors stop after a while...

This can happen because the unit that is unsynced is destroyed, or something else happens that causes the unsynced data to be initialized again by synced data. It's not any deliberate re-syncing taking place.

BlackLiger · Post by **BlackLiger** » 06 Oct 2006, 16:24

Still no fix on the F10 movie bug, where if you cancel it, spring still assumes its taking the movie....

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 06 Oct 2006, 17:15

...or produces random garbage.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 06 Oct 2006, 18:38

HawkMan wrote:The game shoudl detect desyncs and resync itself without player involvement and withotu players even noticing.

could be a simple matter of the host once every 5 seconds or so sending a ping to all clients to get a delay timsteamp, then asking for full coordinates of a set number of random untis from all clients at some exact timestamp, and if they don't match, it resyncs.

That's still very difficult, a manual resync command would be easier to implement.

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0.73b1 test release 4, pretty much the final 0.73b1 version