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http://spring.jobjol.nl Needs your help

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Re: http://spring.jobjol.nl Needs your help

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Then i was confused by "Player Tracker Host" option in SD.
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Licho
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Re: http://spring.jobjol.nl Needs your help

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Oh yeah, thats separate service, its service which tells SD where given player is (what map/mod in his battle) without lobby account. That way SD knows what map/mod you need in current game even if lobby (tasclient) does not explicitly ask for download.
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Re: http://spring.jobjol.nl Needs your help

Post by BrainDamage »

temp move away on a diff space few old ca versions to gain few GB until a more permanent solution can be made? ( then restore them )

http://www.springfiles.com/search_resul ... result=100
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Licho
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Re: http://spring.jobjol.nl Needs your help

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Just delete all but 3 latest.
No point keeping them
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Re: http://spring.jobjol.nl Needs your help

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Licho wrote:Just delete all but 3 latest.
No point keeping them
Yeah, no point watching old replays, or...?
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Re: http://spring.jobjol.nl Needs your help

Post by Jazcash »

TradeMark wrote:
Licho wrote:Just delete all but 3 latest.
No point keeping them
Yeah, no point watching old replays, or...?
Count how many CA replays you can find on your start starting from the latest page and working backwards :P
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Re: http://spring.jobjol.nl Needs your help

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Yeah, or just use http://replays.adune.nl/?act=search (Total 56 results found)
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Re: http://spring.jobjol.nl Needs your help

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TradeMark wrote:Yeah, or just use http://replays.adune.nl/?act=search (Total 56 results found)
And BA is 1900 results found :lol:
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Re: http://spring.jobjol.nl Needs your help

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you can always reconstruct each CA version from SVN, by simply checking out the right revision into an .sdd folder. therefore, they are not required anymore as solid archives.
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hoijui wrote:you can always reconstruct each CA version from SVN, by simply checking out the right revision into an .sdd folder. therefore, they are not required anymore as solid archives.
and how many people know this and how many people know how to do this?
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Re: http://spring.jobjol.nl Needs your help

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how many people want to replay these 70 demos and if so, are too lazy to ask how to do it in #ca?
do we care for such people?
learn to quote?
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The point is, what youre suggesting is same as telling a non-programmer to solve a problem by programming it yourself... I've seen such talk a lot in "pro clubs", they dont care or understand that not everyone is as smart as they.
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Re: http://spring.jobjol.nl Needs your help

Post by Wombat »

jj wrote: Springfiles is hosting almost 10 gig of maps, mods etc.
first of all i would suggest deleting all useles stuff, like *map* v1, if everyone are playing v732983197

i bet u can find a lot of files that nobody downloaded in last 2 months
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Re: http://spring.jobjol.nl Needs your help

Post by maackey »

hoijui wrote:how many people want to replay these 70 demos and if so, are too lazy to ask how to do it in #ca?
do we care for such people?
Lots of people like to watch games, especially good ones. Look at the success of all the SC2 commentary vids on youtube. With the exception of a very, very slim minority everybody is lazy. (and even motivated people are lazy in certain areas) So yes, we do care for such people because otherwise we'd be all alone and friendless with nobody to play with :cry:
hoijui wrote:learn to quote?
This isn't very constructive at all. There is nothing wrong with quoting the previous poster to specifically address them.
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Post by Pressure Line »

Technically maackey, if all they do is spec or watch replays you still have no-one to play with :P
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you forgot to address the fact that these are 70/2000+ demos. realistically, it would probably happen 1- form now till eternity, that someone would want to watch that.

if he had not quoted my last post, everybody would have known that he addresses my post, even if it would not have been the last post (which is, the de facto default anyway). therefore, it was wrong to quote.

there is even a programming paradigm related to that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention ... figuration
... no, you do not have to be a programmer to understand this, or get to the logic behind this by yourself.
in short: relying on conventions saves time for human beings.
there could not be a quote more obsolete then this one.

what i am requesting is: for someone really in need to replay one of these 70 games (lets say, for a movie), instead of:
* finding and installing, or compiling the right old spring version (medium)
* finding the right map (easy)
* finding the right mod (easy)

it would be:
* finding and installing, or compiling the right old spring version (medium)
* finding the right map (easy)
* asking for how to get mod & getting it (medium)

do not babysit someone that most likely does not exist. please!
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Post by TradeMark »

hoijui wrote:do not babysit someone that most likely does not exist. please!
Maybe they exist but we arent seeing them because of the complexity of this problem. Dunno about CA now, but it used to get new version every day back then, that was certainly a problem in uploading replays since nobody would be able to watch them since very few people have all the versions on their computer.

These kind of problems are very common in developing something because most people wont even report the bugs or problems they are having... Or they simply arent even aware that its possible: they think its a feature.
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Re: http://spring.jobjol.nl Needs your help

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Old replays dont work because of old engine version anyway. Imo no point storing more than 2-3 stables on springfiles.

However it must be stored there, because SL cannot download it using rapid system.
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Re: http://spring.jobjol.nl Needs your help

Post by aegis »

can't just put it in the downloader system?
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Re: http://spring.jobjol.nl Needs your help

Post by Licho »

springfiles.com is downloader system!
Its the only way to distribute it to mirrors atm.
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