Spring Lobby crashes
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Spring Lobby crashes
Hi!
Everything was going great until today, when i entered Spring Lobby as always. The window opened but now is empty excepting for a little square. How can i fix it?
Everything was going great until today, when i entered Spring Lobby as always. The window opened but now is empty excepting for a little square. How can i fix it?
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Re: Spring Lobby crashes
It's a bug that's been around for ages, and it's a pita. Just keep closing and restarting springlobby and eventually it will start up correctly.
Re: Spring Lobby crashes
Is there any indication as to what causes it?
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Re: Spring Lobby crashes
http://projects.springlobby.info/issues/1479
Seems to be caused by new version of wxwidgets. Really not the fault of SL devs, but annoying nevertheless.
Seems to be caused by new version of wxwidgets. Really not the fault of SL devs, but annoying nevertheless.
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Re: Spring Lobby crashes
I can only LOL at this. I have used wxwidgets as a programmer and I can tell you that springlobby is a buggy piece of shit and has been for many years, and that is not the fault of wxwidgets, that I use to make perfectly stable and much more complex apps.luckywaldo7 wrote:http://projects.springlobby.info/issues/1479
Seems to be caused by new version of wxwidgets. Really not the fault of SL devs, but annoying nevertheless.
Oh that naughty new version of wxwidgets. That certainly is to blame for years of daily springlobby crashes. LOL!
Re: Spring Lobby crashes
You mean that open source piece of shit, anyway troll or not you deserve a bansillynanny wrote:I can only LOL at this. I have used wxwidgets as a programmer and I can tell you that springlobby is a buggy piece of shit and has been for many years, and that is not the fault of wxwidgets, that I use to make perfectly stable and much more complex apps.luckywaldo7 wrote:http://projects.springlobby.info/issues/1479
Seems to be caused by new version of wxwidgets. Really not the fault of SL devs, but annoying nevertheless.
Oh that naughty new version of wxwidgets. That certainly is to blame for years of daily springlobby crashes. LOL!
Re: Spring Lobby crashes
Actually it's the combination of wxwidgets with kwin and metacity. If you'd use twm there would be no problem.luckywaldo7 wrote:http://projects.springlobby.info/issues/1479
Seems to be caused by new version of wxwidgets. Really not the fault of SL devs, but annoying nevertheless.
IMHO it's the job of the application programmers to keep up with library changes, or define valid library versions.
SL works for me for a long time now without problems - except this one.
Re: Spring Lobby crashes
My SL window goes half-blank after games, forcing me to restart it each time. I use Compiz+Unity though - anyone else have this?
(it also crashes every time I quit it, but the crash dialog doesn't stick around)
(it also crashes every time I quit it, but the crash dialog doesn't stick around)
Re: Spring Lobby crashes
Unity produces all sorts of problems - it's really beta-quality... Try with a diff window manager (when logging in, you can choose gnome2 -> metacity -> same problem as above, but at least not completely black).
I get the crash when closing SL too.
I get the crash when closing SL too.
Re: Spring Lobby crashes
As i wrote in the ticket i tested without DM (only xterm in .xinitrc) and it is bugged then too.
Reverting to wxgtk 2.8.10 works for me. Do that until devs sort this out.
Reverting to wxgtk 2.8.10 works for me. Do that until devs sort this out.
Re: Spring Lobby crashes
Yeah Unity has no effect here.
Re: Spring Lobby crashes
@sillynanny:
don't blame springlobby devs, better write patches + bugfixes
https://github.com/springlobby/springlobby
don't blame springlobby devs, better write patches + bugfixes
https://github.com/springlobby/springlobby
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Re: Spring Lobby crashes
@sillynanny
What a seriously jerk thing to say. Go slap yourself.
What a seriously jerk thing to say. Go slap yourself.
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Re: Spring Lobby crashes
Yet you attempt to speak for every user when you are one of the few having this type of problem?
If you're so concerned about it, perhaps you could help to fix it (seeings how you're a dev and all, perhaps you could figure out what the issue is).
If you're so concerned about it, perhaps you could help to fix it (seeings how you're a dev and all, perhaps you could figure out what the issue is).
Re: Spring Lobby crashes
This is because bugs are piling in much much faster than they're able to fix them. Springlobby needs more help, and the current developers are more than capable of writing good code, they just lack the time and energy to tackle the mountain of problems inherited.
But they are tackling the issues, and Spring lobby has come a long way.
It seems right now anything spring related in the past is sacred and perfect ( except anything affiliated to Argh ), and cannot be questioned. Community members handled everything perfectly without fault, projects flowed forwards in a continuous golden age, anyone who says otherwise is an evil troll. It's insulting.
In the early days Springlobby was buggy as hell, so was tasclient, and AFLobby for that matter, but we got on with it and dragged out the bug fixing hats and set about fixing things.
To deny there were ever bugs is stupidity of the highest order, and is disrespectful of the hardwork people like Koshi and BrainDamage have put in.
But they are tackling the issues, and Spring lobby has come a long way.
It seems right now anything spring related in the past is sacred and perfect ( except anything affiliated to Argh ), and cannot be questioned. Community members handled everything perfectly without fault, projects flowed forwards in a continuous golden age, anyone who says otherwise is an evil troll. It's insulting.
In the early days Springlobby was buggy as hell, so was tasclient, and AFLobby for that matter, but we got on with it and dragged out the bug fixing hats and set about fixing things.
To deny there were ever bugs is stupidity of the highest order, and is disrespectful of the hardwork people like Koshi and BrainDamage have put in.
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Re: Spring Lobby crashes
To deny there were ever bugs is stupidity of the highest order, and is disrespectful of the hardwork people like Koshi and BrainDamage have put in.
Thank you AF for a bit of sense. I too share your impression that springlobby is getting better. I said it was a buggy shit at a time in which loading it up, opening the battlelist, choosing a game and starting spring had a 50% chance of crashing and needing an xkill. This happened on the versions that were released on the ubuntu spring ppa at the time.
You mention that springlobby is under new management. That is great. But it stands as a fact that it was buggy for a long time, and even then it was a very important project because it was the only linux lobby. Maybe still is.
Forbodding Angel:
The idea that only I was affected by these bugs is pathetic historic revisionism. You couldn't go into #main without hearing grumbling about springlobby. I just kept quiet and xkilled when needed. But when I hear people shit on wxwidgets, I have to intervene.
Now if you think that opensource is an excuse for buggy, then you fundamentally do NOT understand what opensource is. The fact that a lot of opensource software is distribute for no charge does not mean it is worthless.
And if you think open source project management should live in an ivory tower where developers only listen to criticism from other contributors, well, then maybe a lot more is explained about many spring related projects.
Thank you AF for a bit of sense. I too share your impression that springlobby is getting better. I said it was a buggy shit at a time in which loading it up, opening the battlelist, choosing a game and starting spring had a 50% chance of crashing and needing an xkill. This happened on the versions that were released on the ubuntu spring ppa at the time.
You mention that springlobby is under new management. That is great. But it stands as a fact that it was buggy for a long time, and even then it was a very important project because it was the only linux lobby. Maybe still is.
Forbodding Angel:
The idea that only I was affected by these bugs is pathetic historic revisionism. You couldn't go into #main without hearing grumbling about springlobby. I just kept quiet and xkilled when needed. But when I hear people shit on wxwidgets, I have to intervene.
Now if you think that opensource is an excuse for buggy, then you fundamentally do NOT understand what opensource is. The fact that a lot of opensource software is distribute for no charge does not mean it is worthless.
And if you think open source project management should live in an ivory tower where developers only listen to criticism from other contributors, well, then maybe a lot more is explained about many spring related projects.
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Re: Spring Lobby crashes
Apparently you aren't aware of who you are talking to. No matter.
Present Tense
However, that said, SL is pretty solid really. I haven't had sl crash in a very long time. Perhaps you're "Doin' it rong".
In the meantime, stop being a self righteous buffoon, and help develop SL. The fact that it is wxwidgets means that your help can be useful.
SL happens the be made by two guys. Most of the shit around here is one man projects, and replies like yours are not motivating, they just serve to piss everyone off. Imo, you deserve a tempban for being a dick.
It is possible to dissent and be respectful. Those of us who actually work with the engine around here get more latitude because we aren't just random pricks off the street with 0 knowledge bitching about something just to bitch.
Talk to Koshi. Maybe you could even help with SASI (even tho SASI is qt, which is vastly superior when you're doing cross platform involving winbloze).
Present Tense
Past Tense...and I can tell you that springlobby is a buggy piece of shit and has been for many years...
Have any of these glorious apps that you have designed with wxwidgets been cross platform? From everything I understand wx is fine for nix, but your precious wxwidgets sucks dick in winbloze, hence many of the issues in SL. Fix one bug and another comes out of nowhere for no goddamn good reason. You might be able to appreciate how exhausting that would be.You couldn't go into #main without hearing grumbling about springlobby. I just kept quiet and xkilled when needed. But when I hear people shit on wxwidgets, I have to intervene.
However, that said, SL is pretty solid really. I haven't had sl crash in a very long time. Perhaps you're "Doin' it rong".
In the meantime, stop being a self righteous buffoon, and help develop SL. The fact that it is wxwidgets means that your help can be useful.
SL happens the be made by two guys. Most of the shit around here is one man projects, and replies like yours are not motivating, they just serve to piss everyone off. Imo, you deserve a tempban for being a dick.
It is possible to dissent and be respectful. Those of us who actually work with the engine around here get more latitude because we aren't just random pricks off the street with 0 knowledge bitching about something just to bitch.
Talk to Koshi. Maybe you could even help with SASI (even tho SASI is qt, which is vastly superior when you're doing cross platform involving winbloze).
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Re: Spring Lobby crashes
Where did somebody shit on wxwidgets? O_osillynanny wrote:But when I hear people shit on wxwidgets, I have to intervene.