A Christmas Mouse

[kiki]

Mighty mouse wins! No tilt wheel, just a ball. pwned logitech and m$ users.

I found some (psued0)drivers. One is called true x-mouse and the other is applem pro. applem pro is the side scrolling

[CarRepairer]

I have a Logitech G7 (weird cordless version of the G5) that died after a year and a half. While I waited ages for Logitech to replace it, I used a corded mighty mouse to make maps for spring and do other things to survive. Here is what I gathered:

The mouse buttons are weird and not intuitive. For example, the middle click involves pushing down on the scroll ball (which has some sort of silent switch in it), then as you push further you do a regular mouse click which then registers as a middle click instead of a left click since the ball is pressed.

In my G7 where the buttons are all one plastic piece but it's easy to discern which one you're clicking, left or right, since they are separated by the middle wheel. With the macmouse you can't actually tell and must exaggerate your hand to tilt well to the left or to the right and keep your fingers far apart to make sure you're clicking the right one. Being ambiguous results in left clicking when intending to right click and vice versa.

Yes the scroll ball is cool and the squeezable sides is cool (except there is no tactile feedback or sound to the squeeze so that could be improved too).

And by the way, I use the scroll wheel to change weapons in FPS.

[kiki]

Im not sure if I have a new version or if you men are just bad at listening and have no coordination. Right click, middle clikc, and left click are all easy and intuitive. Middle click is on the scrollball, which is normal. I dont know what u were talking about with all this "push further you do a regular mouse click", for me i just click with the scroll ball. I can here AND feel the mouse click, both right middle left, scroll up, down, left, right, and the squeeze button. Its a softer sound, but I can atleast feel it. Logitech has got it wrong with their egonomic system and a click sound that can be heard from a mile away, imo. My mouse is mightier.

[DandyGnome]

The mighty mouse is for those people who want a sensitive mouse with a specific feature set. For those who want something bigger with more response (read less sensitivity) there are other mice. Of course I am still working on getting the horizontal scrolling working in kubuntu and I have to sudo connect to it but the features that do work work nice once connected.

[kiki]

Tell me how that goes good mighty mouse friend. Im working on the same for windows (but some day Ill tackle ubuntu (gnome > kde imo) as well). check this out: http://www.trinityworks.co.jp/software/ ... /index.php

(in japanese, use google)

[CarRepairer]

I've used a corded mighty mouse and a cordless one that was purchased less than 3 months ago.

I'll restate:
The scroll ball can be pushed down but it is not a button. When it's pushed down, leftclicking will do a middle click. Try holding the mouse in the air then push that ball down with all your might and nothing will happen. No sound, no click. It's like a "shift key."

The top of the mouse is one solid unbendable piece. So I can have my index finger to the left of the scroll ball and still right click, if I'm close enough to the middle (and vice versa with the middle finger). When this happens accidentally, it's a pain. This is impossible with my logitech.

Both mighty mice I've used have no feedback on the squeezers.

[kiki]

lies

[SinbadEV]

lies

Perhaps Apple has improved on the design in the interim?

[kiki]

That could be possible, because on mine none of that is true. Or his is broken.

[DandyGnome]

The sides do click, you just have to be sensitive enough to feel it. Also the top detects what you are pressing on and the priority is from highest to lowest scroll ball, left side, right side. However the pressing is fairly sensitive so if you have a tendency to push down with all of your fingers resting heavily on the mouse then it may misinterpret your intentions. However for someone with a light touch it works great, and in my opinion looks much nicer.
As to that windows driver it looks useful. For linux it is just a matter of configuring the mouse which means more research to find out its name and which button number corresponds to which function.

[kiki]

Hehe, tell me about it. I had to do that for a keyboard once.

Btw all, found some nice windows apps that are good for mice all around, even LOGITECH AND M$! Both are called xmouse something, so dont get confused, because they are different.

True X-Mouse allows you to automatically focus the window you are mousing over. In addition, you can bring windows to the front or the back with a single click. The best part is probably that selected text is automatically copied, and middle click pastes. Good stuff

X-Mouse Button Control is a different program that allows you to map your mouse buttons, and make the mappings application specific. For example, you could make it so that every application except firefox would close with middle click. Its great stuff, and the possibilities are truely endless since you can even map a program. You could use it for almost anything, including swapping the buttons around on a friends mouse or giving him a funny surprise the next time he clicks on something. Good proggy

Edit: I used this to map my 4th button (squeeze buttons)

I highly recommend both, and I found that they both work well together. They can clutter up you sys tray, but X-Mouse button control has the option to hide the icon. Have fun!

[rattle]

Is this thread still about mice or is it apple fanboi talk?

[kiki]

Is this thread still about mice or is it apple fanboi talk?

My last post was not even specifically about macs or mac mouses. Pay attention.

[rattle]

Didn't read any further after all this apple talk.

Both programs aren't of much use to me. True X-mouse appears to be occupying mouse3 with it's copy pasta feature which I need and X-Mouse Button Control could support more than five buttons as my mouse effectively got nine mappable buttons. Takes up way less memory than Logitech's SetPoint and doesn't need a service to run, though. No idea about the current IntelliPoint drivers but they should be about as bad.

[kiki]

hmm okay...


Just so you know, control will never support more than 5 buttons. No worries for me tho, as i have 4, and its good to be able to map that other one.

[BaNa]

The razor mice aren't that great, neither are the drivers. They're too expensive too.

I'm satisfied with mine. Got it 3 years ago (at the end of a brief but intensive CS period), still works like a charm. It cost the same as the competing logitech at the time. I may try those pro logi's someday, because my hand is big, and a fuller mouse is nice to handle, but i've gotten totally used to the razer. And adjustable sensibility is great. Don't use it (the adjustable sensi) in spring, but its good for art work and fps.

[rattle]

A friend of me got a razor and my hand hurt after 30 minutes using it... I think they're too flat for me, I'm used to mice shaped like the good old microsoft mice.

[Comp1337]

I have a razer diamondback, one of the best mice ive had.
The 6th and 7th buttons are a bit awkward though

[kiki]

In xmouse button control, you can make a key combination, with pauses in it. For example, you could make it so that button 5 does ctrl a, then ctrl d.

[Comp1337]

men are just bad at listening and have no coordination which is normal. I dont know what u were talking about "push further", for me i just click balls. My mouse is mightier.

yeah totally