SpringMark

Satirik · Post by **Satirik** » 30 Aug 2007, 16:30

gogo make it and post but stop arguing the last thread was locked because of you guyz

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 30 Aug 2007, 22:17

Mr.Frumious wrote:Is there any way to make Lua do logging? Get the current time? Shut down spring? Because if so, then a Lua script could replace SpringMark.

Roughly, here's how it goes:
1) Springmakr configures spring.
2) Springmark launches Spring to execute the benchmark scenario, which includes a bunch of action and a lua-script that logs the time at each point in the scenario (including the end).
3) Lua script shuts down spring, and writes a final event to the log.
4) Springmark detects that the Spring process it spawned has closed, and reads the Spring logfile.

Yay!

Ya, that's pretty much the way I would do it. There is no other way to produce an accurate spring relevant score, that would do the evaluation work for you determining where your bottlenecks are. And also, with testing like that it should be fairly easy to acctually intellegently evaluate the score vs game preformance, so springmark would be able to create a reliable mark score for players, and then mark score all the maps vs gamesizes as well via equation, and if your score is lower than the game's score on x map with x players, you know your PC will have trouble playing the game.

The current springmark is no where near that accurate because it doesn't evaluate how you will preform in spring, it just spews up garbage roughly guessing how valuable your platform hardware is. Basicly, it's not remotely close to being accurate enough to be used as a system of deciding weather or not a player will hurt game performance. The only useful thing it does is report more accurate CPU data to the game field, however, until it acctually evaluates a players ability to play the game effectively lag free, I don't think it's even useful to game admins in that respect. You're fucking scum if you kick people because you see they have a 1 gig processor.

Complicated · Post by **Complicated** » 30 Aug 2007, 23:06

Mr.Frumious wrote:Is there any way to make Lua do logging? Get the current time? Shut down spring? Because if so, then a Lua script could replace SpringMark.

Roughly, here's how it goes:
1) Springmakr configures spring.
2) Springmark launches Spring to execute the benchmark scenario, which includes a bunch of action and a lua-script that logs the time at each point in the scenario (including the end).
3) Lua script shuts down spring, and writes a final event to the log.
4) Springmark detects that the Spring process it spawned has closed, and reads the Spring logfile.

Yay!

1 and 2 = Wrong, it doesn't :]
reasons and evidence; Spring's executable file isn't launched, I've used it on a computer without any spring programs on it, and the fact I checked my execution logs where spring wasn't activated or accessed since I last did.

Don't make assumptions :]

Also springmark has nothing to do with spring what so ever, it measures the CPU and it's specifications and takes it from there. Please just don't talk bullshit.

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 30 Aug 2007, 23:20

Oh, and no, the thread wasn't locked due to dissenters. It was locked due to dissent by people such as myself, countered by circuitous arguments and ad hominem attacks originating primarily (Though not entirely) from supporters of SpringMark.

Complicated · Post by **Complicated** » 30 Aug 2007, 23:33

neddiedrow wrote:Oh, and no, the thread wasn't locked due to dissenters. It was locked due to dissent by people such as myself, countered by circuitous arguments and ad hominem attacks originating primarily (Though not entirely) from supporters of SpringMark.

Your not helping this...

Tobi · Post by **Tobi** » 30 Aug 2007, 23:38

Complicated maybe read the post before you quote it

I agree with Mr.Frumious yeah, a score of how fast Spring is on someones computer would be more useful in the lobby then a score of how fast some random benchmark algorithm is on someones computer. In the end it is how fast Spring runs which matters for lag after all.

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 31 Aug 2007, 06:32

Complicated, Mr.Frumious is describing how he believes springmark SHOULD run. Not how it CURRENTLY runs.

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 31 Aug 2007, 15:09

/me starts laughing..

I didn't even have to open my mouth...

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 31 Aug 2007, 15:35

hehehe epic

Tobi · Post by **Tobi** » 01 Sep 2007, 12:02

Lets get back on topic plz, it should be pretty clear now what Mr.Frumious ment.

Complicated · Post by **Complicated** » 12 Sep 2007, 00:49

Snipawolf wrote:
Complicated wrote:
Snipawolf wrote:Well, I would have to say Complicated looks like an ignorant asshat about now...
I do recall there was no flaming to be in this thread, yet I see plenty of it, mostly directed at me. Kids...
Well, that is what happens when you don't read the whole post. He wasn't talking about how SpringMark ran at all, he was talking about how he would like to see it run. Neddiedrow is also interested in helping SpringMark get off of its ass.

I beleive you are the one not helping this, you think what I said was flaming? You called his post bullshit, and even thought he was "assuming" how SpringMark ran.

I prefer to see it not run, it causes problems and makes less people play and can promote bullying in the lobby considering the ammount of immature people on spring now.

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 12 Sep 2007, 02:53

So, Satirik and I talked about a few things, and now one of my LUA projects is making a benchmarking mission. If somebody beats me to it, sure, but otherwise - wish me luck.

Spring RTS Engine

SpringMark