Can we wait?

url_00 · Post by **url_00** » 25 Jul 2007, 22:04

How long could it take?
Let's find out!

Archangel of Death · Post by **Archangel of Death** » 25 Jul 2007, 22:52

Bad thread... Baaaadddd thread!

Thats almost as bad as asking when Duke Nukem Forever is going to be released, except these guys aren't getting paid!

zwzsg · Post by **zwzsg** » 25 Jul 2007, 23:15

Version numbers are just an arbitratry number, especially for free software that doesn't follow the same cycle as commercial one. I don't care if it's labelled beta or v 2.0, what count is:
- Has it been released?
- Is it playable?
- Is it stable?
- Does it feels like something is missing?
So imo we're already past what would be considered gold release if Spring was a commercial software. Well, save for the actual content/game package/mod, even though several have been made already, but it's just the main devs do not care that much about including them in the installer.

Relative · Post by **Relative** » 25 Jul 2007, 23:20

As far as I know there isn't a solid roadmap for spring, so a 1.0 target is a non-issue.

Felix the Cat · Post by **Felix the Cat** » 25 Jul 2007, 23:26

This poll is missing the ham sandwich option.

zwzsg · Post by **zwzsg** » 25 Jul 2007, 23:28

No never. How optimistic!

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 25 Jul 2007, 23:37

HAM SANDWITCH HOW DARE YOU! @*$&)!*@%~~!!!!

manored · Post by **manored** » 26 Jul 2007, 02:18

I bet around 1 year, since I think that dsync is the only thing that keeps it from being called "no more beta" :) Hope dsync ends soon.

ZellSF · Post by **ZellSF** » 26 Jul 2007, 02:22

http://spring.clan-sy.com/wiki/Monthly_Topic_Rotation

Once there are no feature requests that seems important enough to be repeated each month, I'd call it final :P

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 26 Jul 2007, 02:56

I don't think spring will ever be conventionally finished... I mean it's kind of at a point right now where it would be good enough to be a 1.0 version release right now if it were commercial software. It runs fine, it runs many mods, it has robust modding capabilities, it is relatively stable. It's not like a half finished system or something, it's a fully finished system that is now being tweaked and modified to perfection as new features are added.

It will never really be more finished than it is now, because people will still keep working on it and improving it as time goes on.

Felix the Cat · Post by **Felix the Cat** » 26 Jul 2007, 07:44

Eh, with the continuing desync issues, I wouldn't say that the current Spring could be compared to a commercial release. Perhaps when there isn't desync in 10% or so of games, it could be referred to as comparable to a commercial release.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 26 Jul 2007, 08:10

I voted ham sandwich because there's no point to this question, 1.0 comes out whenever someone decides it should which could be tomorrow even. I mean we could vote on, say, Gundam 2.0 but Spring's version number is just something that gets increased to tell releases apart.

Also the desync issue is less severe than the issues EA would ship a game with so meh.

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 26 Jul 2007, 08:29

Felix the Cat wrote:Eh, with the continuing desync issues, I wouldn't say that the current Spring could be compared to a commercial release. Perhaps when there isn't desync in 10% or so of games, it could be referred to as comparable to a commercial release.

I agree it's a severe bug, but it's just that, a bug, it's not really effecting feature completeness.

imbaczek · Post by **imbaczek** » 26 Jul 2007, 09:32

I've had a lot less desyncs in 75b2 than 74b3 (that is, 0), but many more crashes (see mantis #567.) I'd say spring is in a state where a commercial game would be sent to QA and all those crashes would need to be hunted down before going gold. Resync would be nice, of course, but it could potentially introduce so many problems it'd have to wait.

All of above has nothing to do with version numbers ^^

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 26 Jul 2007, 09:34

imbaczek wrote:I'd say spring is in a state where a commercial game would be sent to QA and all those crashes would need to be hunted down before going gold.

Sounds more like the state in which a game is released to the beta testers (paying customers). Release now, patch later.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 26 Jul 2007, 13:22

gundam 2.0 may be any where from 1 year to 2 years away depending on real life and school.

Pxtl · Post by **Pxtl** » 26 Jul 2007, 15:37

manored wrote:I bet around 1 year, since I think that dsync is the only thing that keeps it from being called "no more beta" :) Hope dsync ends soon.

That and AFLobby.

Archangel of Death · Post by **Archangel of Death** » 27 Jul 2007, 02:55

I voted ham sandwhich.

url_00 · Post by **url_00** » 27 Jul 2007, 04:50

Umm... Who edited my poll?

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 27 Jul 2007, 04:56

Not me

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