Recommend a good ADSL modem please

[Comp1337]

my Dlink is horrible too, never ever buy a dlink. The devil lives in em.
It dies all the time. But only in critical moments, such as when im turning around a spring game laying down the pwnhammer.

[Ishach]

Oh yeah untill i fiddled with the MTU settings and updated the firmware I couldnt play anything with this router, every 2minutes or so the internet would drop for about 10 seconds, which killed any game I was playing.

[AF]

I've had my linksys router for 2 years and the wifi range is the same as when I got it, the only thignt hats changed is my knowledge fo wifi signals and howto get more range out of stock standard equipment.

The US government has a set of court orders which prevent the NDIS networking interface specifications being opened up which is why Prism and prism2 are much better for linux, and why ndis based equipment needs ndiswrapper and longwinded setup procedures. Belkin has been a dissapointment for me not just their routers but everything I've ever tried from them todo with networking.

And I did notice my linksys router doesnt have features my safecom router has, but thats because is a cheap linksys router and not a more advanced more expensive version.

I agree with the dlink statements though, I've heard they cause nothing but trouble and my own experience with them has been terrible, worse than that with belkin products.

And foreboding, please treat this as a discussion and not a government advice specification. Theres no reason to go overboard, and if you do theres no reason nto to put it politely so you dont loose face, as your looking more like a child throwing a tantrum than an authority on routers atm.

[bamb]

Zyxel is a good brand.
It worked flawlessly for my aunt when a cheaper ADSL modem failed miserably. (Zyxel was recommended to me by a friend who is also an it comms professional.)

They're not that expensive either.

But I think it's German and don't know if you can get them elsewhere but in Europe.

[grumpy_Bastard]

Before I get started, to actually answer Licho's question:

DLG-4300 - $122.00 USD
Review

WPNT834 - $119.00 USD
Review

WRT54GX - $128.00 USD
Review

The reviews where done by tom higgins, but dont take it as the word of god. When spending any amount of money, do your own thinking and figure out what meets your needs, then go from there (To the review sites). Consumer reviews, such as the ones hundreds of ones done by customers of newegg along with the well done reviews by professionals should give you the best idea of what to expect out of a particular peice of equipment.

Linksys is utter useless crap. The only way they would be considered good is by a nearly computer illiterate person. If you are comp illiterate, they are great because linksys makes it really easy to set up, but if you want and kind of advanced functions, you're shit out of luck unless you feel like drudging through mounds of crap to get to what you're looking for.

An engaging conversation or a debate might be too much to ask for, but Ill ask for it anyway. Neddierow stated “linksys is horrible”, and you have stated “ Linksys is utter crap”. Neither of you have pointed out which one, which version, or even a link to a review of the particular model. Ive also heard people say UFOs exist and the governments cover it all up, I am not going to believe either of these claims just because someone breathed the words. Every company produces complete crap, its just a matter of actually using your brain (or google) to figure out which particular models are complete crap. Linksys by no means is godly, they are far from it. Can you and neddierow honestly state that every single modem, router, switch, hub, and network interface card made in the past years and years to come by a company are not worth considering?

You know how to use Google. Congrats.

Yes, its amazing how much information that can be found from google with little to no effort. I hope some day you also give googling a try.

First, given that Licho already hosts an autoserver and plays separately, I must assume that he would specify if he needed anything beyond a four-port or eight-port, thus bringing our contributions down to those levels.

You mean the low end networking? I assumed that much, someone asking in the spring forum about getting a new router most likely is not upgrading an ISP or large office. I also assumed Licho is using a low end connection such as cable or DSL, which is why I have googled and posted specifications on home routers.

In my experience, which is my own and does not necessarily cover all Linksys products, they have been terrible in that specific category. Unreliable, poor power supply design, reduced wireless range after a month of use, errors with in data routing and generally lacking in advanced features.

You made a statement saying the linksys brand name is horrible, regardless of what you personally experianced that is bad advice. Stating your “personal opinion” as a fact, is different from giving your opinion. If you or anyone else had said “I had a few of the ___ and one ___, they both sucked and I would never buy one again”. Thats fine.

I'm entitled to an opinion based upon my experience

I suppose it all depends on your (and my) point of view. From my view, I see someone who stated something fairly stupid and incorrect with no supporting evidence, merely half a sentence. The second time around, you did the exact same thing

and unfortunately for you, your attack of such doesn't make anybody look bad aside from yourself.

Yes, Im sure its rather unfortunate. Its even more unfortunate when a person cannot handle being quoted and criticized or challenged without acting childish. Im not trying to be hostile, or just making an attempt at taking up lots of space on your monitor. Text is a poor communication medium, but I feel im being as clear as I can without using emoticons at the end of every sentance. If you need me to add in a smiley face after every sentance, I can do that but I figured its not necessary. I apologize if the way I appear to sound over text seems hostile, but really... Im leaning back in my chair with a mountain dew. You will know im hostile, if you get bombed with angry emails and PMs.

One more note, just to crap all over this thread again...

Explain to me why a home user would want a fricking cisco router

Who knows what someone might be doing. I used to have a 2501 I purchased off ebay for my class, they are fairly cheap now. I cant remember what mine had in it as far as the cpu and ram goes, but they are fairly outdated and slow compared to even some of the newer cheapo routers. They are not something an average person really needs or would want, but if you have an IDSN or T1 connection, it would be a wise choice to use one. Either that, or you are trying to one-up your neighbor.

my Dlink is horrible too, never ever buy a dlink. The devil lives in em.

I Give up...

[grumpy_Bastard]

crap, hit quote instead of edit

[Neddie]

If you think I can't handle criticism then you obviously haven't read any of my posts.

I granted that my statement might not hold true for all Linksys, but that it remained my opinion, which is as valid as any of the others here. My experience is not yours - and the more I ask around, it seems a mixed review of actual users, which is fair enough. I personally would never buy another one without noth a long warranty and a rebate, and I'm going to quite logically recommend against them until I've obtained personal proof that they are reliable.