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Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 26 Aug 2006, 02:36

I got a question, is it possible to make a unit wait 3 mins for its death explosion? Ex - Death Stinger dies, in the actual show, a zoid would explode after a while if left alone, if attacked it may explode faster... A zoid core explosion is equivalent to a nuke, and its gunna be big, so they need some time to get the hell away, or their ignorance shall pwn themselves!

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Argh · Post by **Argh** » 26 Aug 2006, 02:44

The short version is, "yes".

The long version is, "Yes, but you need to Call-Script X()" where X is the name of your fancy death animation, and then when the script returns, the unit is now completely dead.

Can you do things like have it shoot randomly while it dies? No. It's already dead when the script is running. Nor will it move. But you can make it slowly twitch, lose random parts... or whatever... while it's dying, yes... definately.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 26 Aug 2006, 02:51

YESSS! I will also have random twitches

Then, anybody ignorant enough not to know why it stays there for like 3 mins will soon find out

Edit: Also, where the hell do I put my side pics (16x16 or something like that)

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 26 Aug 2006, 07:56

No, the ExplodeAs explosion is triggered the moment the unit hits zero HP. The Killed() function can take its time and wait a bit until returning which keeps the unit on the field until Killed() returns. The unit won't do anything in that state except play animations (its HP bar turns blue so I suppose it's stunned) but other units won't notice it's dead and keep firing at it until it disappears.

Argh: There's no need for a separate funtion there, you can just write all of that into your Killed() function.

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 26 Aug 2006, 08:56

Hmm... he might be able to make the explosion take a veeeeery long time to expand, though... good for things that die "on fire" whatever... I guess the "3-minute BOOM" thing is just visual for the moment though. Ah well, that will change.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 26 Aug 2006, 13:45

Oh, I can think of a question now: How do you emit that stream of smoke that e.g. LRPCs cause when shooting? Does that happen when you emit smoke from a piece named flare* or is there a separate SFXTYPE for that?

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 26 Aug 2006, 14:05

Well, the LRPC one is called by Show/Hide Piece in the COB. Hopefully that's going bye-bye soon. The type of "flash" and smoke is determined by Default damage, just like a whole bunch of other things (grrrrr).

And then in NanoBlobs I have some faking-it things I did, which you can go see for yourself

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 26 Aug 2006, 14:12

So if I unhide a piece called flare it produces that smoke?

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 26 Aug 2006, 15:36

Is there a get HP function yet?

You could set it to get the HP, and if the HP falls below a certain threshold, it begins its slow death sequence and has its maxspeed set to 0, ending in setting the HP to 0, killing it. It would remain a unit all that time and could do anything a unit can do, like for instance firing randomly.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 26 Aug 2006, 15:41

get HEALTH, standard OTA feature IIRC, returns the HP in percent. Unfortunately not settable.

VonGratz · Post by **VonGratz** » 26 Aug 2006, 16:10

KDR_11k wrote:So if I unhide a piece called flare it produces that smoke?

I think that startsmoke=1; tag in the weapon file would be useful.
VonGratz

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 26 Aug 2006, 16:25

Hm, I don't necessarily want to associate it with a weapon.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 26 Aug 2006, 16:42

Snipawolf wrote:YESSS! I will also have random twitches

Then, anybody ignorant enough not to know why it stays there for like 3 mins will soon find out

Edit: Also, where the hell do I put my side pics (16x16 or something like that)

Quoting myself, I will ask a new question, is it possible ( I don't care how hard the script will be) to make it have a timer of 3 mins, and everytime it is shot it depletes a second?

Guessmyname · Post by **Guessmyname** » 26 Aug 2006, 16:45

Yes, I'd think so. Using a static-var that goes down by one every second, and using hitbyweapon() to detect when hit and deduct an extra second.

It won't be able to tell the damage of a weapon though. It could be a tiny little rifle or a big nuke, it'd still deduct only one extra second

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 26 Aug 2006, 16:46

Doesn't matter, I really wouldn't care XD

Send a machinegunner over to "finish the job" lol

Edit:
And Apparently, its a little more flexible than I thought

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 26 Aug 2006, 17:15

Noone would bother trying to "finish off" a unit that's already dead. Also keep in mind that the method Caydr suggested won't work, you can't destroy the unit from its script. It's dead the moment its HP fall to zero and that's when it explodes, anything after that is just cosmetic.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 26 Aug 2006, 17:23

Ahhh, I got an idea then...

Hp drops to about 10 percent or so and it becomes immobile, weapons hardly work and have terrible accuracy, and its armor class would change (hopefully) and allow it to take like .3 damage from a bunch of stuff, and anyone stupid enough to try to destroy it from there... Is just stupid

This way, a script won't make it die, somebodies stupidity (or intelligence perhaps, depending oh hows its used...) could make it into a deadly mine...

But, if you don't destroy it... It has a regen, once it gets back up to 30 percent or so, well, you know what happens

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 26 Aug 2006, 17:50

So, what do you do if one of those things attacks your base?

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 26 Aug 2006, 18:46

Don't let it get built... Simple enough...

Orrr, the much much longer method...

Reclaim it... Get under it and reclaim it...

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 26 Aug 2006, 21:59

"Don't let it get built" is a pretty lame excuse for bad balancing...

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