Re: https://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=33869

Post by **Silentwings** » 10 Sep 2015, 21:57

Re: viewtopic.php?f=64&t=33869

What is the reason/use case for AllowSpectatorJoin=true? (note for the unfamiliar: the tag probably doesn't do what you think it does).

The only things I could think of that were close were future multiplayer missions and ingame lobbies, but isn't there the glaring insecurity of impersonification? I can't see how anything could be done about that. Am curious since I hope one day to make multiplayer missions...

Post by **hokomoko** » 10 Sep 2015, 22:11

player a hosts a game
player b tries to join this game after it started as a spec.
player b can't do that because AllowSpectatorJoin is false.

Post by **Silentwings** » 10 Sep 2015, 22:49

Ok, it does apply to spectators trying to join user hosted games late, and I agree that should be possible in an ideal world. (For autohosts, it's not needed - they should set it to false, and specs will still be able to midgame join, see link in OP)

But imo its not very useable, for that or for my ideas, whilst it allows impersonation. If there's an autohost involved, maybe it can help authenticate, if not, afaics we're left trying to authenticate in lua, which is wtf.

Post by **abma** » 11 Sep 2015, 13:33

would it make sense if "anonymous" users get a automatic name, like anonymous1,anonymous2,... ?

the only purpose of this setting is that anyone can join a running game.

Post by **hokomoko** » 11 Sep 2015, 15:43

maybe append "(spec)" to their name?

Post by **abma** » 11 Sep 2015, 16:18

hokomoko wrote:maybe append "(spec)" to their name?

i would prefer a prefix. not sure about what, maybe a tilde? i.e.

Code: Select all

~username

on irc that meant a user wasn't running ident.

Post by **hokomoko** » 11 Sep 2015, 16:27

Sounds good.

Post by **Silentwings** » 11 Sep 2015, 16:33

Sounds like a reasonable precaution.

But still, afaics this leaves an ingame lobby & similar trying to authenticate in lua with ~no info, or just not at all, and that's not going to hold water.

Post by **gajop** » 11 Sep 2015, 18:03

I don't understand how multiplayer missions and ingame lobbies are affected by this.
I think there are far bigger issues that need resolving, that this one doesn't even fall under my radar, but still I feel I should know.

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