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Hate to deflate your bubble guize

- Nordic appearance

Witnesses who have managed to escape from the island, says to NRK reporters on the spot that the perpetrator had a Norwegian look. He should be between 185 to 190 cm tall and have blond hair.
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On the other hand, maybe not.
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So what country did the US invade to be honoured with 9/11 Hoi?
Cut the crap, This is religious fanaticism and has little to do with war in the middle east.
Its a sad thing all these people are dying in iraq and afghan but it is a different story.
This is religious fanaticism mixed with economic and political interests of major muslim religious players.
Some of these attacks cant even be implied to be related to iraw and afghan except the fact that there are muslims living in those countries...

What about those british muslims and that bombing thing...They had no dead relatives in iraq...They just accepted and sympathized with the idea of jihad and felt offended for their "muslim brothers".

So give us a bit of rest with ur US hate, colonialism yada yada....go live in the middle east than, and save yourself from this horrible imperialistic mindset..
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Hoi wrote: At the moment we stop raping, killing, exploiting and abusing them like slaves, things will improve.
my rebutal, first part is in pm. second part is here. you argue about imperialism. you are abusing the word. even if some businesses are profiting from the war, because you know it does happen making shit makes money for people...

It isn't imperialism like you want to portray it. you need to go reread history. This is nothing like the way spain or england ran shit. It may be exploitative but it isn't on that strong a scale. It's all good I understand you just want to demonize.

You want to talk about 1-2 mil in casualties and assign the responsibility to the soldiers of America because it suits whatever political slant you were raised on. If you actually start reading about this shit. largely deaths happen from unknown sources, tribal fighting, assinations of iraqi police etc.

and don't even start the oh but it is all the war's faul line. This shit happened to other countries before it is nothing new. Those dipshit were doing this to other countries YEARS AND YEARS before 911.

oh but america keeps them down with it's imperialist regime.. yeah so what does that make saudi arabia? or any of the opec nations? they are ROLLING IN MONEY. Funny how they keep having "oil shortages" etc. All sides are playing the game. That is what happens with the large companies. Small countries like somalia have tons of issues not because of america but because of many other complicated factors.

I raise issue with that. I raise issue with you irresponsibly citing numbers and assigning responsibility for deaths off the cuff. It is wrong and you should be broader minded. I don't see a point of debating with you because you ignored ALL OF MY POINTS and then snapped at me because I went back to work and didn't entirely respond to your post! Why should I entertain a discussion with you?
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muslims trying for worldconquest...
suddenly a enlightment appears, its supraeffective...
c-c-c-combobreaker.

Srsly, you can get all sort of excuses for blowing stuff up. I always felt supressed by spring-moderators imperialism and i always felt my feeling hurt by hoi ignoring arguments, and smoth getting heated up over it.

Time to grab my belt and make a difference.



Srsly, i think its the vietnam war. If America wouldnt have started the vietnam war, the muslims would have never ever felt a reason to be supressed, killed, raped and exploited. I have the exact numbers right here.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamkrieg
Don you dare derail my powerfull over-emotional mass-blameation with your counter-patriotism-charge. Okay, everyone is silent now, i take this a s win by exausting the opposite sides.
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smoth wrote:You want to talk about 1-2 mil in casualties and assign the responsibility to the soldiers of America because it suits whatever political slant you were raised on. If you actually start reading about this shit. largely deaths happen from unknown sources, tribal fighting, assinations of iraqi police etc.
First of all I have never and will never say that american soldiers are responsible for the war or all it's deaths. They are a part of it, and the deaths from those unknown sources do play a major role. In the end they are sent there with the illusion that they are fighting to protect their country, I do not blame them.
smoth wrote:and don't even start the oh but it is all the war's faul line. This shit happened to other countries before it is nothing new. Those dipshit were doing this to other countries YEARS AND YEARS before 911.
I never denied that. Still, this war is not about defending anything, it is about offense; major profit for huge corporations and corrupt politicians.
smoth wrote:oh but america keeps them down with it's imperialist regime.. yeah so what does that make saudi arabia? or any of the opec nations? they are ROLLING IN MONEY. Funny how they keep having "oil shortages" etc. All sides are playing the game. That is what happens with the large companies. Small countries like somalia have tons of issues not because of america but because of many other complicated factors.
Maybe imperialistic was a bit of a strong word. I think you're not understanding me, you're assuming I think america is the source of all evil and everything else is holy and loving. That is not true, and I don't think that. However, again, this war is evil and only made to profit the elite in america, the corporations and it's corrupt government. Yes. Everyone is playing the game. You have to realize though, the american corporations have a huge role in corrupting and abusing many countries.
smoth wrote:I raise issue with that. I raise issue with you irresponsibly citing numbers and assigning responsibility for deaths off the cuff. It is wrong and you should be broader minded. I don't see a point of debating with you because you ignored ALL OF MY POINTS and then snapped at me because I went back to work and didn't entirely respond to your post! Why should I entertain a discussion with you?
Again, I never said all those deaths were caused by american soldiers. I can not say how many, so let's just call it "an amount". I was explaining why there are more terrorists than ever, and why the hate of america in the middle east is bigger than ever. Because iraq and afghanistan were attacked, and many people died. "An amount" because of american soldiers, "an amount" due to other causes, it does not matter. The civilians who live there see it happen and direct their anger to america and the west, and possibly become terrorists.
smoth wrote:I don't see a point of debating with you because you ignored ALL OF MY POINTS
I didn't do it on purpose. Tell me what you mean exactly and I will happily respond.
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This thread has devolved into politics and religious discussion, both banned subjects in this forum and for good reason.

[No they're not.]
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AF wrote:This thread has devolved into politics and religious discussion, both banned subjects in this forum and for good reason.
http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6693

Wrong forum, they're not banned here.
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inb4 US is blamed for terrorist attack in Oslo, oh wait...
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So...90 killed? WTF
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Heh, one guy did more damage with a single strike alone than al-qaeda has done with any strike in a decade.
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90 dead is bad. And in norway, i mean, every fucking country, butin norway, there is simply no reason there, they are tolerant, there is work there, money, freedom, you can go re-curseing all the way, and still not find a half-decent reason to hate that country. And even if you hate them, they would treat you fair, nice, wouldnt let you starve to death or wor-else, you really need to not only beyond good reasoning, but beyond reasonable (in Muhahahamads-terms) raging to blow up that countrys. Lets do the muslim hate everything test there:
[ ] No sinfull clothes (because to cold)
[ ] No significant porn. Rule 34 on elks has yet to be seen.
[ ] Alcohol is forbidden - expensive.
[X] Everyone beeing so uber-civilized, it hurts.

What next to bomb now? Why not go to heaven first, and blow up those 72 angels, waiting there?


Surely, a high tendency among (the usual suspect group: young, unemployed, aimless) individuals in a certain religious group to get mass murderous, is no proof that said religious group supports in secret such ways of thinking, or at least (unspoken out loud) tolerates these. Also, if religious rules generate a ressource for extremism (horny young, male, school drop-out, unemployed, medival-honorbased mindset with a wellfare living head-of-house-father at home) it certainly cant be blamed if those products blow up. There is simply no connection between the unguarded plastic-explosives factory and the loonys who steal it to blow up the nearby city.

I have enough of this, join the religion of the Prophet Picasso. We are very peacefull, but if a little detail not fits our worldview, things get ugly, and they started it. For example, in belgium and holland, students decided against learning german, instead studying france and english, terminating german as a foreign language there. Now we are very tolerant here, having a madmen as prophet ourselfs, but this goes way to far, over the line (mostly because it aint us who step over it), therefore, i cant guarante that all you not german-speakers dont get suddenly chopped up in a dark streetcorner. Its not that i want to threaten you- we condemn such behaviour, but some of those easy to ridicule youths, beeing threatend to learn english, might take those philiph-j-fryday hatespeeches a little to literal. Cant be helped. Bow or be bowed. Thats all the choice there is, beeing full of love, and freedom, and shit, we can get really mad-evil if that is put to the stress-test.

Why so silent? I comited a piece of tarditional polti-discussion..
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Dont think this has anything to do with islam...
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OMG, i have to replace Religion? Be right back, with i-moronic updated copy-pasta...

sorry, did you really believed i was serious for a second, back there?


The other guys, in this board- those opinion - diss-cuss-thing. Every single one of them- a freaking monster, hitler in disguise. Good thing, i have that firewall algo in my mind, so all i have to do, is reveal them, by triggering there ideologys, and then they can spark thunderstorms of evidence and bitter hate, which i can outwait in that farraday-cage of mine.

The reason? Well doubt is uncomfortable, if you put your finger into the plug, you might walk away a diffrent person, or not a person at all.

Its just so mysterious, that this thread doesent make it over page 9000, although there was a murderios crime, a religion and politics involved...why so silent?
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Maybe it made people speechless?
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Excuse me people, but who said that the person behind these were a muslim extremist? Get your facts straight before you start another religion/muslim hate thread.

Actually in fact, the person who has been suspected of these attacks has been a 'nativist' and a 'islamophopic' of some sort.
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Excuse me, beeing from the most beautifull country of the world, Irony, i have tribalTrippleTroubles understanding the english language, and i missunderstood the religion, nation and heritage of the indivdual involved. I see now that this makes my point invalid and void, so i take everything back, and put a big ÔöÉ of my wrong words, so that the truth may shine..
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So the terrorist was right wing christian fundamentalist this time..
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thread of terror therefore only has 2 pages. Rage does not work if the Algos in your own head are concerned. But its nice to see, that religion, no matter how its named or who has founded it, can produce the same results...

Guess its the fault of the modern world. In old times, that guy would just get his killing spree by marching with some other psychotics into the neighbouring kingdom...
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Atheism is also a religion so maybe we can get some atheist fundamentalists blowing shit up as well.
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Atheisms is not religion, its just absence of religion. Also when you dont get any promise of afterlife or promise of god given good and wrong - its far less likely tou do such horror thing.
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