Wide theme

Wide theme

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Hoi
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Wide theme

Post by Hoi »

Could we please get a wide theme for the site?, just like it is now, but eh, using full screen width. Currently about 2/3 of my screen is unused, and that's very annoying.
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Jazcash
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Re: Wide theme

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Shove some porn ads all over the place.
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maackey
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Re: Wide theme

Post by maackey »

In the meantime, if you have firefox, just press ctrl and scroll up to increase the width. It works wonders for me
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SinbadEV
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Re: Wide theme

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CTRL PLUS works too.
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Hoi
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Re: Wide theme

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maackey wrote:In the meantime, if you have firefox, just press ctrl and scroll up to increase the width. It works wonders for me
I know, but it zooms, I just want it wider.
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Forboding Angel
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Re: Wide theme

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Genius!!!

Fucking idiots. I'm tired of mincing words with you morons over this crap. Fixed width also happens to display horribly on smartphones.

Course you fucking retards are to stupid to even admit that you might just be the teensiest bit mistaken about fixed width = godliness.

And Great fucking idea MORONS!
greatfuckingideagenius.jpg
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Because 24 pt font is JAWSOME!!!

Awesome ideas brought to you by the same crowd that screams loudly "IT"S A FUCKING FEATURE N00B!!!".
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Jazcash
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Re: Wide theme

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Agreed. Fixed width sucks and zooming just pixelates images and makes me cry.
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Machiosabre
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Re: Wide theme

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Forboding Angel wrote:Genius!!!

Fucking idiots. I'm tired of mincing words with you morons over this crap. Fixed width also happens to display horribly on smartphones.

Course you fucking retards are to stupid to even admit that you might just be the teensiest bit mistaken about fixed width = godliness.

And Great fucking idea MORONS!
greatfuckingideagenius.jpg

Because 24 pt font is JAWSOME!!!

Awesome ideas brought to you by the same crowd that screams loudly "IT"S A FUCKING FEATURE N00B!!!".
I think someone might be switching your ritalin with pep pills.
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Forboding Angel
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Re: Wide theme

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Actually ritalin is essentially speed, a pep pill if you will. :-)

I'm too old for all the reasons for medical attention you kids think up these days. :lol:
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SinbadEV
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Re: Wide theme

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I think is was "agreed" on by most of the "design people" that fixed width is easier to read. I agree. Book pages, newspaper columns, sheets of paper.

However phpbb does support "board styles" which I think would support skinning... I know nothing about this but maybe you could chat up fnord and see if he'll let you make a modified theme (shouldn't be to hard, it's already scalable for the most part anyways)... or you could get greasemonkey and make an override script for it ans the post it.
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Forboding Angel
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Re: Wide theme

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SinbadEV wrote:I think is was "agreed" on by most of the "design people" that fixed width is easier to read. I agree. Book pages, newspaper columns, sheets of paper.

However phpbb does support "board styles" which I think would support skinning... I know nothing about this but maybe you could chat up fnord and see if he'll let you make a modified theme (shouldn't be to hard, it's already scalable for the most part anyways)... or you could get greasemonkey and make an override script for it ans the post it.
Exactly my point! Thanks for making it SB. PHPBB3 supports (supposedly) multiple board styles, there is no reason to not allow a fixed for the people that like it, and fluid for people with larger than 17 inch monitors and high resolutions.
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SinbadEV
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Re: Wide theme

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for anyone interested I made a quick and dirty (I know very little about gm scripting) script.
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Tobi
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Re: Wide theme

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Forboding Angel wrote:Genius!!!

Fucking idiots. I'm tired of mincing words with you morons over this crap. Fixed width also happens to display horribly on smartphones.

Course you fucking retards are to stupid to even admit that you might just be the teensiest bit mistaken about fixed width = godliness.

And Great fucking idea MORONS!
greatfuckingideagenius.jpg

Because 24 pt font is JAWSOME!!!

Awesome ideas brought to you by the same crowd that screams loudly "IT"S A FUCKING FEATURE N00B!!!".
Yes, we're all morons cause we work on an engine instead of wasting crapload of time on your stupid forums.

Jeez, GTFO bitch or fix it yourself. kthxbai.
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SinbadEV
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uoted f

Post by SinbadEV »

Tobi wrote: Yes, we're all morons cause we work on an engine instead of wasting crapload of time on your stupid forums.

Jeez, GTFO bitch or fix it yourself. kthxbai.
Translation: Site is in SVN, patches can be submitted on mantis. (Quoted from Tobi in another post)
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smoth
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Re: Wide theme

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Stay with fixed. Liquid would be fail to cover the layout stretching paragraph's into single line sentences.

Forb, WOW buddy.
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Forboding Angel
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Re: Wide theme

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Tobi, now how in the world did you get that that was aimed at you or any other engine dev here?

I was actually moreso speaking to people in the community, but meh.
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CarRepairer
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Re: Wide theme

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Forboding Angel wrote:Tobi, now how in the world did you get that that was aimed at you or any other engine dev here?

I was actually moreso speaking to people in the community, but meh.
I have 1920x1080 res and I really don't give a crap about the site width because.. who cares?
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Cremuss
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Re: Wide theme

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Tobi wrote:Yes, we're all morons cause we work on an engine instead of wasting crapload of time on your stupid forums.

Jeez, GTFO bitch or fix it yourself. kthxbai.
+1
Site is working and fully readable. No need more atm :roll:
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Forboding Angel
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Re: Wide theme

Post by Forboding Angel »

It's pretty simple to implement actually, as a working example, here are lines 134-137 in "Overall_Header"
<tr><td class="headertd">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="760">
<tr><td bgcolor="#20292E" class="headertd"><img src="/images/pixel.gif" height="10" width="1" /><br /></td>
<td bgcolor="#C8D2DA" width="758" class="headertd"> <!-- 4C626F -->
Copy the entire template and rename it to "Currentstylename Fluid", change lines 134-137 in "Overall_Header" to:
<tr><td class="headertd">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="85%">
<tr><td bgcolor="#20292E" class="headertd"><img src="/images/pixel.gif" height="10" width="1" /><br /></td>
<td bgcolor="#C8D2DA" width="84%" class="headertd"> <!-- 4C626F -->
And all should be right with the world, that way in the user cp the user would be able to choose what he or she likes best. It is very simple to do. I have never even worked with PHPBB templates and I found the answer in about 5 minutes, so meh, go figure.

Btw 85% because it's bad form to quite literally take up the entire page if you do not have sidebars. 100% would be as eyesore and the current fixed with is now on large resolutions.

"location_bar.gif" can be fixed quite easily by doing it the right way (which should have been done in the first place) by simply using a 1 px slice of it, setting that as a background image, then at either side you have a 5 pixel image which is the rounded corners.

Same can be done for "bottom.gif".

Now given the fact that the above is 5 minutes worth of work, is it that big of a deal to implement? Or is it the fact that no one knew (or even bothered to look) into how to do it? We're talking about a grand total of less than 8 lines here.

If someone would be so kinda as to zip up the current template, I can make the changes, and post it wherever you want. You don't even need to make hooha about it or anything, just allow for the option to be there.

tobi wrote:Jeez, GTFO bitch or fix it yourself. kthxbai.
I offered to make an alternative over a year ago. kthxbai

Even before phpbb allowed for user defined styles, it was still patheticly easy to do by a simple if statement that tripped a parameter in a cookie when the user logs on (by using a checkbox... "Fluid Width: 1|0"). All you do is tell the theme that if x exists, load a different file. That's super easy to do do, and technically, that's the messy way to do it.

You say "Bitch" as though I was incapable of doing it myself, which I find amusing, considering that so long ago I offered to make an alternative. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face... I would also like to know why you felt the need to 'attack' me personally when my post wasn't even directed at you. That just doesn't make sense to me.
Tobi
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Re: Wide theme

Post by Tobi »

Because I just get fed up by your stupid rants about your stupid variable width?
In either case I'm not going to spend even a second time on it, no matter how easy it is, you can poke someone else with access.
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