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by rene7705
26 Jan 2011, 00:39
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games
Replies: 49
Views: 5044

Re: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games

:roll: Sigh, it's not worth the time spent explaining anything to you because based upon your past responses, you wouldn't understand anyway. Fine, if you don't want to discuss the actual issue with logic and facts, but resort to light personal attacks instead, then we won't talk about the issue. I...
by rene7705
26 Jan 2011, 00:18
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games
Replies: 49
Views: 5044

Re: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games

Unit testing can only detect so much. Usually you would complement unit testing by doing dynamic user tests based on use cases(playing the game in different ways). If you don't want to be a tester indirectly, spring is probably not for you. I'm a developer myself, but not in C++, one who can take (...
by rene7705
26 Jan 2011, 00:14
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games
Replies: 49
Views: 5044

Re: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games

And after 11 days since this crippling issue got reported to mantis, i had hoped it would've at least got confirmed and assigned to someone by the core developers. You know, the build that kloot asked you to test? It has a fix to the problem! :regret: https://github.com/spring/spring/commit/61f4091...
by rene7705
25 Jan 2011, 23:59
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games
Replies: 49
Views: 5044

Re: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games

Forboding Angel wrote:Oh so it works for *A (+ clones) so therefore it works for everything.

./slap
even if it doesn't support all mods, RAI would certainly help to find crippling bugs in core pathing routines, eh...
by rene7705
25 Jan 2011, 23:34
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games
Replies: 49
Views: 5044

Re: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games

Just chiming in to clarify that rai does not work well enough to "test" pathing in ct. Nothing of real value to add outside of that minor note. hm, ok, could be. i've seen it climb the techtree in zero-k, tech-anni and ba just fine.. produces many units and factories too, scouts and attac...
by rene7705
25 Jan 2011, 23:27
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games
Replies: 49
Views: 5044

Re: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games

Comprehensive test for pathing? Are you retarded? Do you have the foggiest idea how intensive pathing testing has to be to catch even the large bugs? Oi. Seems to me like running 4 AIs against eachother on a few different maps will do that trick on full-auto for you..? RAI can take any mod/game, an...
by rene7705
25 Jan 2011, 23:13
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games
Replies: 49
Views: 5044

Re: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games

Kloot isn't lazy man. In my opinion, any developer who insists his end-users test his code for him, while _for him_ it's trivially easy to setup a comprehensive test himself, is "lazy". I could add even less flattering descriptions, but i've already received a board warning for the "...
by rene7705
24 Jan 2011, 18:31
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games
Replies: 49
Views: 5044

Re: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games

similar thing is already done. Zero-K lobby can auto download any engine you need. To use it just add [engine0.82.5] to battle title and people who join it will auto use that version. Players who join it with zero-k lobby will auto use given engine. You can see it in on "iridum1" autohost...
by rene7705
24 Jan 2011, 14:22
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: springlobby sometimes freezes when downloading map/game
Replies: 2
Views: 493

Re: springlobby downloading map/game

oh, and i'm not the only one with this problem, i regularly meet people in battle lobbies that have the same freezing problem.
by rene7705
24 Jan 2011, 14:01
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: springlobby sometimes freezes when downloading map/game
Replies: 2
Views: 493

springlobby sometimes freezes when downloading map/game

First of all, i'd like to see springlobby include web hosts of maps/games, so that if the current download scheme "doesn't have it", it can still be downloaded. Second, sometimes the download freezes the springlobby.exe. Not for all maps/games, in my experience, but often enough to be a nu...
by rene7705
24 Jan 2011, 13:57
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games
Replies: 49
Views: 5044

Re: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games

I think it would be a big improvement if - the lobby software(s) list a version number of the spring.exe used for any hosted game in the lobby, much like they do for the mod/game already. - the spring.exe and spring-multithreaded.exe change their name to include the version number, and old versions ...
by rene7705
24 Jan 2011, 13:34
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games
Replies: 49
Views: 5044

Re: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games

Also, i just saw that i no longer use the MT spring.exe version, it must've gotten auto-changed during the upgrade to 0.82.7.x

So all my remarks about CPU raping by 0.82.7.x apply to the regular spring exe, not the MT one.

Hope that clarifies something to someone.
by rene7705
24 Jan 2011, 13:33
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games
Replies: 49
Views: 5044

Re: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games

Also, if you want people like me to test code branches for you, i'd like to see a document on how to start up a game with a different executable. Am i right to assume that springlobby will take the "current" build rather than one in a different directory? Will putting the right .exe in (sp...
by rene7705
24 Jan 2011, 13:26
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games
Replies: 49
Views: 5044

Re: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games

1) 0.82.3 < 0.82.7, what's the point? In this case, 0.82.3 is a more recent build. Usually version numbers go up, not down, for newer software. 2) I never signed up to be a tester, know little about the spring code, have no appetite for it, and don't appreciate having that chore shoved in my lap. I...
by rene7705
24 Jan 2011, 13:16
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games
Replies: 49
Views: 5044

Re: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games

smoth wrote:Kloot isn't lazy man.

but yeah I can sympathize with you not wanting to test just play. btw he was talking to luckywaldo and Floris not you rene, don't take things so personal.
with what he said, "especially rene7705", i can take it a little bit personal, imo.
by rene7705
23 Jan 2011, 18:37
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games
Replies: 49
Views: 5044

Re: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games

Yeah I also think the new pathing is worse, ( pathingwise ...) Concrete evidence of regressions in 82.7 wrt. previous Spring versions is more useful than personal opinion. If engine devs put out potential fixed versions to test I am sure I could find some people to test with me. Here's your chance ...
by rene7705
19 Jan 2011, 20:29
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games
Replies: 49
Views: 5044

Re: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games

what map? what mod? did you know MT spring is somewhat buggy and can conflict with certain widgets and gadgets; (causing some mods to break, and uncontrollable lag on others) have you tried with the official executable? several maps, most notably the ones with many height differences.. several mods...
by rene7705
19 Jan 2011, 20:06
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games
Replies: 49
Views: 5044

new pathing rapes CPU, produces unplayably laggy games

on many maps spring is now unplayable for me and many others. it doesnt matter what game/mod, but map does matter. some maps result in more units getting stuck, and when that happens cpu usage reaches 100%. even the multithreaded spring does this, as this is what i run. imo, this "upgrade"...
by rene7705
18 Dec 2009, 00:44
Forum: Help & Bugs
Topic: springlobby 0.33 ubuntu : doesn't download mods / maps.
Replies: 1
Views: 487

springlobby 0.33 ubuntu : doesn't download mods / maps.

alas, still no spring 4 me.. :(

can't get it download mods in any way..

my ubuntu is karmic & updated to today.

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