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| 0004668 | Spring engine | General | public | 2015-02-09 11:48 | 2015-02-12 02:39 | ||||
| Reporter | abma | ||||||||
| Assigned To | jK | ||||||||
| Priority | normal | Severity | block | Reproducibility | have not tried | ||||
| Status | resolved | Resolution | duplicate | ||||||
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| Target Version | 99.0 | Fixed in Version | |||||||
| Summary | 0004668: issues with new camera mode | ||||||||
| Description | see related bugs | ||||||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||||||
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jK (developer) 2015-02-11 02:05 |
cause it's a replicate of the old default one with the feature of rotation |
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silentwings (reporter) 2015-02-11 08:59 |
But it's not - at least, in its "default" state, the camera rotates when you would previously have expected it to scroll (about 1/4 of the time) and when you zoom in on the ground the camera is refocused (all the time). As you can see from the reaction on the forums of the testers, these are potentially useful features but the vast majority (everyone who responded about it, afaics) want to use the overhead camera. |
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abma (administrator) 2015-02-11 10:22 Last edited: 2015-02-11 10:24 |
ok, then there were at least two new bugs/problems introduced with it. |
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jK (developer) 2015-02-11 17:13 |
| But it's not - at least, in its "default" state, the camera rotates when you would previously have expected it to scroll (about 1/4 of the time) and when you zoom in on the ground the camera is refocused (all the time). ... you aren't fast at learning them ... PRO-TIP for those who didn't noticed it yet: ROTATION HAPPENS IN UPPER 30% OF THE SCREEN WHEN YOU TOUCH EDGES. ALSO THIS IS TURN OFF-ABLE. |
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abma (administrator) 2015-02-11 17:19 Last edited: 2015-02-11 17:20 |
https://github.com/spring/spring/blob/develop/doc/changelog.txt#L23 (just for the reference) |
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silentwings (reporter) 2015-02-11 19:24 Last edited: 2015-02-11 19:28 |
I am aware of the rule for when it rotates (although I did guess the %). The point is that it the new camera is not a 'replica' with something extra; it's a change that the vast majority of (maybe all?) testers said they didn't want as the default. I don't mean to cause you any offence, or put down the new features, but this is simply a fact. |
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jK (developer) 2015-02-11 21:17 Last edited: 2015-02-11 21:18 |
| The point is that it the new camera is not a 'replica' with something extra; It is and you aren't giving any arguments why it isn't. You are just someone who is unwilling to spend even the tiniest amount of time to adapt your brain to new conditions & possibilities. And I am ignoring such none argument-driven statements, cause they are `trollic` to me. tl'dr -> give arguments and we can talk, else shut up |
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silentwings (reporter) 2015-02-11 23:35 Last edited: 2015-02-11 23:44 |
I've pointed out two major ways in which the new default camera is a change (and consequently, not a replica with added features) from the old default camera. And made a bug report. And summarized the many views from engine testing threads, which heavily back not changing the default. These are arguments. Afaics your response is too shout and repeatedly insult me. I fail to see what makes you think its acceptable to respond with "unwilling to spend even the tiniest amount of time to adapt your brain", when I have made a bug report (now replicated by others) which makes it clear that I've tried and in its current state the new default camera is completely unusable for me. |
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abma (administrator) 2015-02-12 00:03 |
this issue here just was/is a result of bad/to few communication imo work should go in 0004670 also it would be good, when for major changes a forum thread is created as it seems always there are a lot of questions. currently information is spread over github, mantis and phpbb which is difficult to follow. (follow up): https://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=33052 |
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| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2015-02-09 11:48 | abma | New Issue | |
| 2015-02-09 11:48 | abma | Status | new => assigned |
| 2015-02-09 11:48 | abma | Assigned To | => jK |
| 2015-02-09 11:48 | abma | Target Version | => 99.0 |
| 2015-02-09 18:09 | abma | Description Updated | View Revisions |
| 2015-02-11 02:05 | jK | Note Added: 0014016 | |
| 2015-02-11 08:59 | silentwings | Note Added: 0014017 | |
| 2015-02-11 10:21 | abma | Relationship added | related to 0004670 |
| 2015-02-11 10:21 | abma | Relationship added | related to 0004650 |
| 2015-02-11 10:22 | abma | Note Added: 0014020 | |
| 2015-02-11 10:22 | abma | Summary | why is new camera mode default? => issues with new camera mode |
| 2015-02-11 10:22 | abma | Description Updated | View Revisions |
| 2015-02-11 10:23 | abma | Note Edited: 0014020 | View Revisions |
| 2015-02-11 10:24 | abma | Note Edited: 0014020 | View Revisions |
| 2015-02-11 17:13 | jK | Note Added: 0014023 | |
| 2015-02-11 17:19 | abma | Note Added: 0014024 | |
| 2015-02-11 17:20 | abma | Note Edited: 0014024 | View Revisions |
| 2015-02-11 19:24 | silentwings | Note Added: 0014025 | |
| 2015-02-11 19:28 | silentwings | Note Edited: 0014025 | View Revisions |
| 2015-02-11 21:17 | jK | Note Added: 0014027 | |
| 2015-02-11 21:18 | jK | Note Edited: 0014027 | View Revisions |
| 2015-02-11 21:18 | jK | Note Edited: 0014027 | View Revisions |
| 2015-02-11 23:35 | silentwings | Note Added: 0014034 | |
| 2015-02-11 23:36 | silentwings | Note Edited: 0014034 | View Revisions |
| 2015-02-11 23:44 | silentwings | Note Edited: 0014034 | View Revisions |
| 2015-02-12 00:03 | abma | Note Added: 0014035 | |
| 2015-02-12 00:03 | abma | Status | assigned => resolved |
| 2015-02-12 00:03 | abma | Resolution | open => duplicate |
| 2015-02-12 02:39 | abma | Relationship added | related to 0004672 |
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