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0003461Spring engineGfx driver issuespublic2013-02-12 19:352013-11-05 21:26
Reporteruser744 
Assigned Toabma 
PrioritynormalSeveritycrashReproducibilityalways
StatusresolvedResolutionfixed 
Product Version92.0 
Target VersionFixed in Version95.0 
Summary0003461: Some games crash during loading or when units get spawned (1334-g799e0c7) with Radeon X1300/X1550 Series
DescriptionThe Cursed 1.241
http://pastebin.com/qMbTBCj6
gets ingame, can scroll around map, crashes once pressing ctrl+f to forcestart or using /cheat /give to spawn anything.

SpringTutorialGame r1
same as The Cursed 1.241

XTA 9.725 [patch 1.8]
http://pastebin.com/jjBJL2ji
crashes during "Loading LuaRules" in loadscreen

Zero-K v1.0.12.3
http://pastebin.com/7ArSPnJT
crash after chosing a commander

Void 2.0
http://pastebin.com/up5k5usL
crashes during "Loading LuaRules" in loadscreen

games that work:
Balanced Annihilation V7.72
tutomod36
TagsNo tags attached.
Checked infolog.txt for Errors
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~0009766

abma (administrator)

2013-02-12 22:01

 all stacktraces contain the lines

"[f=0000000] Error: This stack trace indicates a problem with your graphic card driver. Please try upgrading or downgrading it. Specifically recommended is the latest driver, and one that is as old as your graphic card. Make sure to use a driver removal utility, before installing other drivers."

~0009767

abma (administrator)

2013-02-12 22:02

 as in older releases: try to reduce decals / disable gfx related stuff... check if --safemode works stable for example

~0009769

abma (administrator)

2013-02-13 02:14

 does it help to set AtiHacks=0 ?

~0009772

user744

2013-02-13 03:04

 with --safemode all mods seem to work (at least for few minutes of testing)

AtiHacks=0/1 makes no difference

disable gfx related stuff: makes no difference (also tried the .conf file that works in 91.0) but idk what settings are worth trying.
i tried:
AdvMapShading = 0
AdvUnitShading = 0
GroundDecals = 0
Shadows = 0
AdvSky = 0

~0009773

abma (administrator)

2013-02-13 03:09

 --safemode sets 3DTrees=0: http://springrts.com/wiki/Springrc

is 3DTrees=0 enough?

if not, search on the springrc wiki page for "safemodeValue"

CompressTextures=1 is an other possibility...

~0009774

user744

2013-02-13 03:36

 3DTrees=0 helps only vs the disappearing units, interface etc as described in
http://springrts.com/mantis/view.php?id=3456
But that is only for BA and tutomod which can actually spawn units, in other mods it does not even get that far. (see OP)

CompressTextures=1 makes no difference.

Will trysafemodeValue values tomorrow.

~0009880

abma (administrator)

2013-02-22 12:49

 does the current release or develop branch still crash?

~0009881

user744

2013-02-22 14:04

 http://springrts.com/dl/buildbot/default/develop/92.0.1-62-gc96d6b0/win32/
still crashes.

XTA 9.725 [patch 1.8] still crashs while loading:
http://pastebin.com/sCUy8jVB

with safemode it at first seems to be normal, but every 2nd start or so this happens: when pointing mouse over a unit, almost whole screen goes teal. (i guess unit highlight widget)
could not get in on screenshot but looks like this: http://www.abload.de/img/sosiehtsaus6pp76.jpg (shopped)
While this happens FPS drop to 0 but if I move mouse away fast enough, it recovers. If I keep it pointing, spring hangs and must be closed via taskmanager. (with previous versions that did not happen)
http://pastebin.com/VpKFJQyZ

~0009884

silentwings (reporter)

2013-02-22 19:11

Last edited: 2013-02-22 19:11

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 The bug with the screen changing colour on mouse over unit is caused by a combination of ATI issues and the highlight unit widget - it's been around for a while (I would fix it if I knew how) and I don't think its related to any recent spring changes.

We've disabled that widget by default for the next BA version.

~0009885

user744

2013-02-22 19:31

 yes, i know. its also on help/faq. but highlight widget always worked for me, so thought to mention it. also afaik only screen goes blue, it does not hang.

~0010376

abma (administrator)

2013-04-03 03:36

Last edited: 2013-04-03 03:42

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 @silentwings: i guess thats the ATI + glPointSize bug

see for example:
http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=27363&start=20
http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=24036
http://code.google.com/p/zero-k/issues/detail?id=393

afaik only solution seems to not use glPointSize in widgets.

~0010378

abma (administrator)

2013-04-03 20:29

 does 94.1 still crash?

~0010380

user744

2013-04-04 01:29

 94.1:
BA works (as before)

XTA still crashes but works normal with --safemode.
As it was crashing during "Loading LuaRules" I deleted gadgets folder and then it loads.

~0010392

abma (administrator)

2013-04-04 22:48

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 can you add infolog.txt from the crash of xta please? also, where to download this specific xta version?

~0010393

user744

2013-04-05 03:30

 The XTA crash after "Loading LuaRules" is only on older versions it seems
XTA 9.725 [patch 1.8]:
http://pastebin.com/0rkkFtXN
http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=21739

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XTA 9.726
http://pastebin.com/XtZMxt3T
http://kloot.darkstars.co.uk/XTAPEv9726.sdz

crashes after countdown: http://pastebin.com/73aWDire

BUT: If I do not "press ctrl+f to force start" I can spawn units, and that will NOT make it crash. example: /give arm_commander /give arm_peewee
After forcestart, it then crashs: http://pastebin.com/7csEn0Dn

BUT: /give core_commander makes it crash instantly:
http://pastebin.com/GVKrmzBz


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springtutorial game:
http://springfiles.com/spring/other/springtutorialgame-sdz-download
crashes after countdown: http://pastebin.com/6jTGPqZr

spawn gadget removed: crash after spawning a unit.
for example /give simplehover
if no unit is spawned, can look around the map etc without problem.
when spawning a unit in "press alt+f to force start stage" -> crash.
http://pastebin.com/9encQbzC
(this is different to XTA, but maybe it is just random luck with the models or something)

~0010398

jK (developer)

2013-04-05 10:38

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 try to run spring in gdb (to get a more saying backtrace)

~0010560

user744

2013-04-26 14:48

 http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/ this?
I did not understand it at all.
So I used different debugger, its in all the "remove winrar notice" tutorials and generally pretty pro.

SpringTutorialGame, crash after countdown reached 0.
http://pastebin.com/9XzLhxMJ (useless infolog)

Call stack of main thread
Address Stack Procedure / arguments Called from Frame
0022F398 691CA3B9 atioglxx.691CA730 atioglxx.691CA3B4 0022F394
0022F3AC 006532AD Includes atioglxx.691CA3B9 spring.006532AB

http://pastebin.com/HGdbiQtH
http://pastebin.com/GftxLd6t

not sure what else is worth posting

~0010562

user744

2013-04-26 16:41

Last edited: 2013-04-26 16:48

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 XTA which crashes during loadscreen looks like this

http://pastebin.com/zHQEYuCF

~0010589

abma (administrator)

2013-04-30 11:11

 "translated"


http://paste.springfiles.com/view/b938e2a3

~0010590

abma (administrator)

2013-04-30 11:13

 rts/System/SpringApp.cpp:965 is SDL_GL_SwapBuffers()

~0010605

user744

2013-05-03 01:40

 After much loling around I found:
it does not crash when UseVBO = 0

~0010606

user744

2013-05-03 02:12

 ...on the other hand with UseVBO = 0 units are now invisible (except teamcolor?)
http://www.abload.de/img/screen0017005alr.jpg
but that goes away with /shadows 0
shadows never worked anyway on this computer (simply did not show) so thats ok for me.

~0010608

abma (administrator)

2013-05-04 01:31

Last edited: 2013-05-04 01:32

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 already many thanks! this maybe makes it already possible to workaround it, not sure.

can you please also download / extract gdb:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/tdm-gcc/files/GDB/gdb-7.5-tdm64-2.zip/download

start cmd.exe, cd next into the directory where gdb was extracted.
"cd bin"
then type "gdb.exe C:\path\to\spring.exe"
type "run -w"

let spring crash

then type "bt"

copy & paste the output to us...

~0010610

abma (administrator)

2013-05-04 01:43

 (-w is for windowed mode...)

~0010614

user744

2013-05-04 12:23

 will try that later...
btw what jK said in chat: (deleted some lines)

<[LCC]jK> it reports it supports VBOs and crashes
<[LCC]jK> and GLSL shaders are broken too
<[LCC]jK> likely ati hates VBOs in DisplayLists
<[LCC]jK> but your gpu is such old, they dropped support for it already agggggggges ago
<[LCC]jK> no idea what to do regarding that, cause it reports something it doesn't support
<[LCC]jK> and it hardcrashes
<[LCC]jK> so I got no possiblity to workaround it
<[LCC]jK> seems you have to live with it tilllyou bought a new gpu
<[2up]knorke> maybe as workaround if gfx-card name contains "Radeon X1300/X1550 Series" turn useVBO off
<[2up]knorke> iam too lazy to buy computer stuff anymore
<[LCC]jK> and I am to lazy to write such a hack

~0010615

abma (administrator)

2013-05-04 18:45

 at least we know whats going on with...

knorke: are you on linux? did you try to run it? current FOSS drivers become quiet stable :)

~0010623

user744

2013-05-04 23:31

 32 bit win vista.
http://pastebin.com/V8DwEHDH
then i typed "next" until spring exited:
http://pastebin.com/RT7APxwS

note:
i installed this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/MinGW/Extension/gdb/GDB-7.5/gdb-7.5-1-mingw32-bin.tar.lzma/download
then was missing a dll so http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/MinGW/Extension/expat/expat-2.0.1-1/libexpat-2.0.1-1-mingw32-dll-1.tar.gz/download
 too
Then was missing more .dll so I copied bunch of .dll from mingw/codeblocks install, then it started. hope its correct versions and such?

~0010625

user744

2013-05-05 05:02

Last edited: 2013-05-05 05:06

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 *** this is with test version 5. May 2013 (94.1.1-413-g7b0d1a7) ***
infolog: http://pastebin.com/u7nnU651
gdb log thing: http://pastebin.com/QqyaR7Gx

infolog was incomplete because forgot logflush=1, here is another from different run:
http://pastebin.com/qetwyr6q

--
the strange unit graphics from
http://springrts.com/mantis/view.php?id=3461#c10606
that were fixable with /shadows 0 are now not fixeable anymore

~0010628

Kloot (developer)

2013-05-05 11:26

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 Previously, issuing /shadows 0 would always switch to the ARB model shader regardless of reported hardware capability, now the GLSL shaders are used if the hardware says it can run them (yours does, but generates a "Fragment Shader not supported by HW" warning without any specific information which probably means some hardware limit was exceeded).

I don't think allowing those few users with such crappy GPU's to force-disable shaders is worth it, plus /advmodelshading and /advmapshading already exist for that purpose.

~0010655

abma (administrator)

2013-05-06 04:01

Last edited: 2013-05-06 04:07

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 hmm, maybe add a "crashed" or "cleanshutdown" config variable?

at start, crashed=1 is written to config, at shutdown crashed=0 is written

if crashed=1 is read, safemode is activated and safemode values are written to config?

an alternative would be, to let lobby activate safemode if it detected a crash...

~0010659

Jools (reporter)

2013-05-06 10:59

 I'm curious why XTA 9.725 p1.8 crashes after loading luarules, but 9.726 crashes after countdown. Do they both work with empty gadgets folder? Do you think it would be possible to isolate the offending gadget?

~0011982

abma (administrator)

2013-11-05 21:26

 possible fixed in 95.0, if not please create a new bug report.
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-Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2013-02-12 19:35 user744 New Issue
2013-02-12 22:01 abma Note Added: 0009766
2013-02-12 22:02 abma Note Added: 0009767
2013-02-13 02:14 abma Note Added: 0009769
2013-02-13 02:19 abma Product Version 91.0 => 92.0
2013-02-13 03:04 user744 Note Added: 0009772
2013-02-13 03:09 abma Note Added: 0009773
2013-02-13 03:36 user744 Note Added: 0009774
2013-02-22 12:48 abma Status new => feedback
2013-02-22 12:49 abma Note Added: 0009880
2013-02-22 14:04 user744 Note Added: 0009881
2013-02-22 14:04 user744 Status feedback => new
2013-02-22 19:11 silentwings Note Added: 0009884
2013-02-22 19:11 silentwings Note Edited: 0009884 View Revisions
2013-02-22 19:31 user744 Note Added: 0009885
2013-04-03 03:36 abma Note Added: 0010376
2013-04-03 03:38 abma Note Edited: 0010376 View Revisions
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2013-04-03 03:42 abma Note Edited: 0010376 View Revisions
2013-04-03 20:29 abma Note Added: 0010378
2013-04-03 20:29 abma Target Version => 95.0
2013-04-04 01:29 user744 Note Added: 0010380
2013-04-04 22:48 abma Note Added: 0010392
2013-04-04 22:49 abma Note Edited: 0010392 View Revisions
2013-04-04 23:48 abma Assigned To => abma
2013-04-04 23:48 abma Status new => feedback
2013-04-05 03:30 user744 Note Added: 0010393
2013-04-05 03:30 user744 Status feedback => assigned
2013-04-05 03:51 abma Assigned To abma =>
2013-04-05 03:52 abma Status assigned => new
2013-04-05 10:38 jK Note Added: 0010398
2013-04-05 10:39 jK Note Edited: 0010398 View Revisions
2013-04-26 14:40 abma Summary Some mods crash during loading or when units get spawned (1334-g799e0c7) => Some games crash during loading or when units get spawned (1334-g799e0c7)
2013-04-26 14:48 user744 Note Added: 0010560
2013-04-26 16:41 user744 Note Added: 0010562
2013-04-26 16:48 user744 Note Edited: 0010562 View Revisions
2013-04-30 11:11 abma Note Added: 0010589
2013-04-30 11:13 abma Note Added: 0010590
2013-05-03 01:40 user744 Note Added: 0010605
2013-05-03 02:12 user744 Note Added: 0010606
2013-05-04 01:31 abma Note Added: 0010608
2013-05-04 01:32 abma Note Edited: 0010608 View Revisions
2013-05-04 01:43 abma Note Added: 0010610
2013-05-04 12:23 user744 Note Added: 0010614
2013-05-04 18:45 abma Note Added: 0010615
2013-05-04 20:56 abma Category General => Gfx driver issues
2013-05-04 20:56 abma Summary Some games crash during loading or when units get spawned (1334-g799e0c7) => Some games crash during loading or when units get spawned (1334-g799e0c7) with Radeon X1300/X1550 Series
2013-05-04 20:57 abma Target Version 95.0 =>
2013-05-04 23:31 user744 Note Added: 0010623
2013-05-05 05:02 user744 Note Added: 0010625
2013-05-05 05:06 user744 Note Edited: 0010625 View Revisions
2013-05-05 11:26 Kloot Note Added: 0010628
2013-05-05 11:31 Kloot Note Edited: 0010628 View Revisions
2013-05-05 11:56 Kloot Note Edited: 0010628 View Revisions
2013-05-06 04:01 abma Note Added: 0010655
2013-05-06 04:02 abma Note Edited: 0010655 View Revisions
2013-05-06 04:07 abma Note Edited: 0010655 View Revisions
2013-05-06 10:59 Jools Note Added: 0010659
2013-11-05 21:26 abma Note Added: 0011982
2013-11-05 21:26 abma Status new => resolved
2013-11-05 21:26 abma Fixed in Version => 95.0
2013-11-05 21:26 abma Resolution open => fixed
2013-11-05 21:26 abma Assigned To => abma
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