Spring RTS Engine

What would be there bare minimum computer specs for pretty much no lag on lets say a 5v5 on greenfields at a really high point in the game. This is also, graphics settings on pretty much low except for maybe unit LOD and at 1240 by 1024.

Well, I know from experiance that you'll want more than 256 MBs of RAM, preferrable 1 Gig. And better than a GeForce FX 5200.

My mobo only supports up to DDR333 ram. So pc2700, abit under the standered of pc3200. But im using Pc133

Better then fx 5200, darn i have an mx2 400. I hope a gig of ram at 333mhz will do it !!

Edit: Also i have an ugly p4 2.0ghz proccesser.

512 is fine. (but 1gig is better).

you can buy 3200 or 4700?, it will work, and is usually cheaper and faster.


Get new graphics card

the processor is fine.

a friend played 2v2 on lan with a 900mhz, 512MB (or 1024?) and a geforce 2.
it was playable, but a low resolution so that the text is unreadable. (<=800x600 sucks)

And better than a GeForce FX 5200.

actually on min specs 3v3/4v4 will run fine even on 1024*800 res
the important thing is RAM and a good processor really

Well, he was talking about a 5v5, but what really matters is how big the game gets.

If everybody hits the unitlimit, then a 5v5 is 5000 units, which would probably get about 5-6 FPS on a FX 5200, with a good processor and a gig of RAM.

Playable, but ugly and stuttery and slide show like.

Actually, I'll test it once I get home by giving myself 5000 units and having them sit still... Coz I'm not sure if that 5-6 is the graphics card or just the pathing/los/collision detection.

i have currently a gf 2 mx card and i play with 1024*768 and pretty much everything on minimum. My cpu is still the bottleneck in big games. I have a 2,4ghz pentium 4.

So spring does nt require anything from your gfx card, only insane amounts from your CPU :)

I have a P4 2.8 with 1gig and Radeon X1600. A little-moderate lag on 5v5 depending on if I'm looking at a battle or not.

Well, the processor has very little to do with lag actually, it truely is the ram thats the culprit for those "high lag" games.

My best example is that Ghero (from my clan) for the longest time has a processor of only 900Mhz, but he hosted the game fine (he had lots of ram)

but Thor, when he hosted a game, it was very laggy on account that dispite having a pretty good processor (wasn't great, but it was faster than Ghero's)
he barely had any ram. He didn't tell me how much, but it's my impression that is less than 512, probably around 256.

Anyways, the point of the matter is that ram seems to be the problem with high lag games.

Ooo. I might be getting 1.5ghz if thats the case. And id only be able t oget pc2700.. so itd be like 1.25ghz of pc 3200. !! Yeah i've seen a person play with a 1ghz processer and only going abit above me in CPU useage . I hope 1.5ghz is enough!!

I got the game to run fine on a 600mhz duron with 512 ram and an old gforce 4 440mx.

Given everything was on lowest, but it didn't really have issues until me and my friend ended up with armies of thousands of units blowing each other up.


Of course, zooming out to far (or looking at to many units doing things at once) made it bog down noticeably more.

So whats better.

1.5ghz of ram pc2700 = $180

1Ghz of ram pc2700, Radeon 9550 = $180

What is your present video chip and vram size?

If you have integrated video (that is, your video adapter is built onto your mainboard), then a radeon 9550 is probably better (provided its drivers are installed correctly, and the onbaord video is completely disabled in the bios).

How much ram do you presently have?

You're sure your motherboard supports DDR, AND SDRAM?

PC2100,PC2700,PC3200 etc are DDR ram standards, and have a DIFFRENT SOCKET from the old SDRAM (PC66, PC100 & PC133).

@mongus You can't really put "faster" memory into a system with slower memory, all you'll accomplish is having all the memory run at the maximum speed of the slowest memory in the system. So if you were to have a system that takes PC2100, and a PC2100 module installed, then even if all the others were PC4200, they'd all only go at PC2100 speeds.

Given the faster chips are likely to increse the latency of the memory bus clock by a very small amount since they are designed to operated at a faster speed. Of course, in rare instances some motherboards will do strange things if the memory says it can go faster than the board can, and some memory will become unstable if its run at to low below its specified clock (just like memory becomes unstable if its run to far above its specified clock).


By the way, when you're talking about ram, it isn't in "ghz" Ghz, Mhz, Khz etc are refrences to clock speeds of something, like a processor.

Gb, Mb, Kb and so fourth are all units of memory size (based on the same metric prefix scale-with technical exceptions that aren't really important). While I can understand what you're saying, its a little bit of care about units suffixes for what you're talking about can make things so much easier to understand.

hazard wrote:What is your present video chip and vram size?

If you have integrated video (that is, your video adapter is built onto your mainboard), then a radeon 9550 is probably better (provided its drivers are installed correctly, and the onbaord video is completely disabled in the bios).

How much ram do you presently have?

You're sure your motherboard supports DDR, AND SDRAM?

PC2100,PC2700,PC3200 etc are DDR ram standards, and have a DIFFRENT SOCKET from the old SDRAM (PC66, PC100 & PC133).

@mongus You can't really put "faster" memory into a system with slower memory, all you'll accomplish is having all the memory run at the maximum speed of the slowest memory in the system. So if you were to have a system that takes PC2100, and a PC2100 module installed, then even if all the others were PC4200, they'd all only go at PC2100 speeds.

Given the faster chips are likely to increse the latency of the memory bus clock by a very small amount since they are designed to operated at a faster speed. Of course, in rare instances some motherboards will do strange things if the memory says it can go faster than the board can, and some memory will become unstable if its run at to low below its specified clock (just like memory becomes unstable if its run to far above its specified clock).


By the way, when you're talking about ram, it isn't in "ghz" Ghz, Mhz, Khz etc are refrences to clock speeds of something, like a processor.

Gb, Mb, Kb and so fourth are all units of memory size (based on the same metric prefix scale-with technical exceptions that aren't really important). While I can understand what you're saying, its a little bit of care about units suffixes for what you're talking about can make things so much easier to understand.

I have an MSI6547 mobo. It supports ram up to DDR333 which is pc 2700. Im using a geforce mx2. :D! And im using 512mb of pc133 ram :D!! Which is sdram <3.

That board will physically NOT ACCEPT SDRAM. SDRAM has a diffrent socket notch position from DDRAM to keep SDRAM from being put in a DDRAM socket and vise versa.


You should get the 9550, your CPU and your present ram should be ok, presuming you had a newer video card.

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

Will tell you what RAM you have installed (amonsgt other useful tidbits)

ooo i always presumed it was SDRAM becuase cpuz said 133 mhz. But i see it says pc2100.. o_O?

So 1.5ghz of ram pc2700
or 1 gig and the 9550?

technically it is.

SDRAM has a cycle and it is only read/write on the up cycle. DDR is faster because it's read on both the up and down part of the cycle. That and a few other changes made since ddr was introduced which si why some namign schemes are similair and DDR si soemtimes called something else with SD in the middle I've forgotten.

i ran it well on my geforce4 440mx se 128mb also, even better now that i have a 6800 ultra 256, hehe