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Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 07:41
by daryl
Hi all,
i'm making a new map for a mission.

I would remove the roughness that you see on the map ( see gray pavement )
Image

is it possible to remove or change the background image ( roughness ) of the map??

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 07:42
by Beherith
Yes, try springmapedit. It can be downloaded from the map forums tutorial section.

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 07:53
by daryl
Beherith wrote:Yes, try springmapedit. It can be downloaded from the map forums tutorial section.
yes I know it.. I didn't used it becouse I remember that this program create a not smoothed surface.. right??

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 08:08
by Beherith
The program has a smooth brush as well.

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 10:59
by daryl
Beherith wrote:The program has a smooth brush as well.
mmmm
ok i will use it.
for features whatyou can advise me?

Spring map editor or Build mission editor??

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 12:26
by SirArtturi
Are you talking about detailtexture? Yes It's possible. With SSMF its even possible to use 4 different detailtextures.

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 15:07
by daryl
SirArtturi wrote:Are you talking about detailtexture? Yes It's possible. With SSMF its even possible to use 4 different detailtextures.
what is SSMF?
i search here http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... MF#p445989 but i would know more.
I like this textures.
Can i obtain the same result with Spring Map Editor??

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 15:18
by SirArtturi
daryl wrote: what is SSMF?
i search here http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... MF#p445989 but i would know more.
I like this textures.
Can i obtain the same result with Spring Map Editor??
SSMF is new map format which supports detailtexture splatting, specular maps and plus lotsa other cool stuff like different grass settings.

As far as I know, Spring Map Editor does only support SMF format. So you have to do SSMF stuff manually although It's not really that hard if you just follow the great tutorial made by magnificent Beherith.

What comes to texturing altogether, Spring Map Edit will handle them pretty good and learning curve is low. Just import in the textures you want and start splatting them. Lots of different brushes and methods.

If you want to change the detailtexture in SMF format just open the .smd file and add

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detailTex=yourdetailtexture.format;
tag to the first block.

And remember to include the file in maps folder ofc.

And if you want to remove "the roughness" just use blank detailtexture ofc.

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 15:33
by daryl
SirArtturi wrote:
daryl wrote: what is SSMF?
i search here http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... MF#p445989 but i would know more.
I like this textures.
Can i obtain the same result with Spring Map Editor??
SSMF is new map format which supports detailtexture splatting, specular maps and plus lotsa other cool stuff like different grass settings.

As far as I know, Spring Map Editor does only support SMF format. So you have to do SSMF stuff manually although It's not really that hard if you just follow the great tutorial made by magnificent Beherith.

What comes to texturing altogether, Spring Map Edit will handle them pretty good and learning curve is low. Just import in the textures you want and start splatting them. Lots of different brushes and methods.

If you want to change the detailtexture in SMF format just open the .smd file and add

Code: Select all

detailTex=yourdetailtexture.format;
tag to the first block.

And remember to include the file in maps folder ofc.

And if you want to remove "the roughness" just use blank detailtexture ofc.
ok... i will see.. usually i created maps using texture map, height, feature etc with mapconv...

ok, can the file be a .bmp file for example? And i need to use a black/white format? or grey scale?? i will try this evening...

and I will search tutotial for SSMF format. I like this.

ah..i want to know: Are the maps made with SSMF format more heavy for CPU?

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 15:44
by SirArtturi
daryl wrote: ok... i will see.. usually i created maps using texture map, height, feature etc with mapconv...

ok, can the file be a .bmp file for example? And i need to use a black/white format? or grey scale?? i will try this evening...

and I will search tutotial for SSMF format. I like this.

ah..i want to know: Are the maps made with SSMF format more heavy for CPU?
Yes detailtexture can be bmp. Just make it blank grayscale image. that will solve your "problem" of roughness...

SSMF features should be very light for CPU afaik. And low cpu's ofc can always turn off those settings...

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 16:52
by daryl
SirArtturi wrote:
daryl wrote: ok... i will see.. usually i created maps using texture map, height, feature etc with mapconv...

ok, can the file be a .bmp file for example? And i need to use a black/white format? or grey scale?? i will try this evening...

and I will search tutotial for SSMF format. I like this.

ah..i want to know: Are the maps made with SSMF format more heavy for CPU?
Yes detailtexture can be bmp. Just make it blank grayscale image. that will solve your "problem" of roughness...

SSMF features should be very light for CPU afaik. And low cpu's ofc can always turn off those settings...
interesting...
where i can found documentation about this??

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 17:03
by SirArtturi
documentation about what?

You already found beheriths SSMF tutorial.

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 17:07
by daryl
SirArtturi wrote:documentation about what?

You already found beheriths SSMF tutorial.
ok... :)
now i'm working... when i will come to home i will try to set background of map and i will read beheriths tutorial :)
thx!!

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 18:08
by KaiserJ
yeah, dont worry about ssmf making cpu lag; it disappears if you disable shadows anyways, which people with weak comps will probably do. it wont make any problems

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 19:52
by daryl
SirArtturi wrote:
daryl wrote: what is SSMF?
i search here http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... MF#p445989 but i would know more.
I like this textures.
Can i obtain the same result with Spring Map Editor??
SSMF is new map format which supports detailtexture splatting, specular maps and plus lotsa other cool stuff like different grass settings.

As far as I know, Spring Map Editor does only support SMF format. So you have to do SSMF stuff manually although It's not really that hard if you just follow the great tutorial made by magnificent Beherith.

What comes to texturing altogether, Spring Map Edit will handle them pretty good and learning curve is low. Just import in the textures you want and start splatting them. Lots of different brushes and methods.

If you want to change the detailtexture in SMF format just open the .smd file and add

Code: Select all

detailTex=yourdetailtexture.format;
tag to the first block.

And remember to include the file in maps folder ofc.

And if you want to remove "the roughness" just use blank detailtexture ofc.
hola..i tryed to set a .bmp file... and a png file.. but this cover the texture map. how i can set the transparency???

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 20:01
by SirArtturi
I dont understand you

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 20:03
by daryl
SirArtturi wrote:I dont understand you
ok as i can I upload a screen to show you :-)

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 20:05
by zwzsg
Make it grey, low contrast greyish grey.

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 11 Sep 2010, 19:04
by daryl
zwzsg wrote:Make it grey, low contrast greyish grey.
hola, sorry i'm late ( i was busy ).
ok i tried to do some things:

i change background image with a black, gray and white image and these are the results:

black
Image

white
Image

gray
Image

But i don't like. The colors are opaque

I would do like this:
Image

I also tried using sping map editor but, when the map is compiled and running into spring, the background is "wrinkled" like maps compiled withmapconv:
Image

Is possible to give a "transparent" image as background??

Re: Remove or change background image

Posted: 11 Sep 2010, 20:07
by SirArtturi
I just dont know what you mean with background texture.

But I suppose that you mean detailtexture

Therefore the solution is simple:

Make a custom detailtexture for example size 256x256. Paint it solid gray. Remember that the format must be 8bit grayscale. Save it as a .bmp to your map folder /yourmapname/maps

Then open your map .smd file. Add

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Detailtex=yourdetailtexture.bmp;
to [MAP] section.

Done, you have no detailtexture basically...