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So I got an email today...

Posted: 29 Sep 2009, 23:40
by smoth
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:20:05 +0200
Subject: Question about Gundam licensing.
I was just wondering as to why you do not release Gundam in an open source manner, i.e. GPL, LGPL, MIT, etc.

I just feel like it's a punch in the face of the devs at Spring.

Besides, if you GPL it, and some other mod developer find that he can learn from your code, he will (with a very high probability) credit you accordingly.

// Daniel.
I am offended that i am receiving an email such as this but I want to publicly address this point and give the devs a chance to speak on this subject.

Why is gundam not GPLED?
Gundam cannot be GPLED, anyone who reads the license or site will note that I do not GPL gundam as it is not my IP to GPL. If Gundam was mine to GPL that would be different.

Can people learn from the source?
People can read the code just fine. All of gundam's source is either gpl(where required) or PD. It is only the art that is not shared.

I do not appreciate that I am receiving this sort of email and I want to publicly speak against it. Over the years I have made efforts to help the devs and general spring community and I feel that the attitude in the open source community is offensive. The attitude of everything must be free for our taking is wrong and disrespectful.

I am repeatedly attacked or not sharing enough and while I am not one to toot my own horn. I feel that is is unfair and unjust as I have helped a lot of people and given a LOT back to the community. I have made many efforts over my time here to help in either advice, tips, code and even giving away large portions of my project.

I have spent days generating sky boxes for mapers and even did an entire map, including features, skybox and texture, GPLED it all at the request of a dev. I did the teamcolor textures back when they had to be converted to purple. I have given away my effects, code and many of my sprites(where appropriate) written animations(EE) and effects for many people here. I have even pitched in and helped with other projects by helping with models and textures. I have setup and still run a site dedicated to content creation. There is more but I am just outraged about this email.

So devs, here is your chance to say if you feel I have punched you in the face.

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 29 Sep 2009, 23:41
by Pxtl
Not a dev, but I figure you're giving that bullcrap about a hundred times the attention it deserves.

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 29 Sep 2009, 23:53
by smoth
It isn't the first time I have gotten shit from "the open source community" which is sitting on it's hands bitching about how much I am not sharing.

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 29 Sep 2009, 23:54
by FLOZi
We love you, Smothy! <3

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 30 Sep 2009, 00:09
by jcnossen
smoth cares too much.
If anything, this thread is an invitation for trolls to send him some more annoying emails.

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 30 Sep 2009, 03:09
by KaiserJ
smoth, you're very generous with your work. this dude is clearly just trolling, and if he can't be bothered to read about your licence before emailing you and complaining, then i say you add a sub-clause to your code stating that it can never be used by him specifically ever :mrgreen:

also : i can't imagine you punching anyone in the face who didn't deserve it.

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 30 Sep 2009, 09:21
by Otherside
Another smoth baaaaw thread. Feels good man.

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 30 Sep 2009, 11:04
by JohannesH
Meh why dont you make Gundam GPL?

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 30 Sep 2009, 11:08
by Gota
You guys better watch it or Smoth will just give up on you and won't take you seriously.
I mean,he tries and tries but you just keep failing him.

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 01 Oct 2009, 04:37
by SinbadEV
so painful to resist urge to request timeline for unmentionable project...

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 01 Oct 2009, 20:14
by CarRepairer
SinbadEV wrote:so painful to resist urge to request timeline for unmentionable project...
Do you mean Tower Defense? You're talking about Tower Defense right? I assume that smoth's mod, Tower Defense, is the project you're referring to. I'd wager it's Tower Defense. Tower Defense amiright?

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 02 Oct 2009, 17:08
by Forboding Angel
I'm guessing none of you played the beta. In short, TD spring by smoth is going to be 31 flavors of omgwtfmyballshurtcauseitissowin.

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 02 Oct 2009, 22:30
by 1v0ry_k1ng
TOOOWWWAAAAAAAAARRRR !!

DEEEEEEEEFFEENNNNNNNNNNNSSS !!

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 02 Oct 2009, 23:17
by Gota
Is tower defense gonna be GPL?

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 02 Oct 2009, 23:28
by Pxtl
Gota wrote:Is tower defense gonna be GPL?
iirc, his plans were to open it.

Although, knowing Smoth, he might keep it closed just to spite certain parties.

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 02 Oct 2009, 23:30
by smoth
The plan is GPL/PD.

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 03 Oct 2009, 03:18
by Wartender
did i hear tower defense?
beta please? i love tower defense games

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 03 Oct 2009, 03:29
by BaNa
smoth we love you and what you do even if we arent into gundam. the person writing you can suck a bag of dicks. fuck licenses.



I pine after the maps you made and will not rip the height + texture to add a ta metal map so thats the only thing i could mention but i wont because i respect the fact that you made them the way they are

Re: So I got an email today...

Posted: 06 Oct 2009, 05:24
by Caydr
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Don't do it caydr...

don't do it....