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Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 22:42
by Regret
To who exactly am I supposed to report harassment of users by a moderator that is good friends with other moderators?

Head of moderation (swiftspear) is nowhere. And nobody else will do anything about this individual.

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[10:29:03 PM] <[Fx]Drone> det is a noob
[10:30:54 PM] * Channel message: <[LCC]det[CA]> has muted <[Fx]Drone>
600000second mute in #main for calling someone a noob, there was no prior conversation from [Fx]Drone.

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[9:02:01 PM] <[LCC]det[CA]> do you have anything factual to say ?
[9:02:04 PM] <Regret> det, my complaint is that CA developement team is retarded, and their ego is seen all over the game
[9:02:15 PM] <Regret> from the decisions to include outright cheats to the unit names
[9:02:18 PM] <Dotz> the ZEUS morphs into an artillery
[9:02:19 PM] <[LCC]det[CA]> !mute Regret
[9:02:20 PM] * Channel message: <ChanServ> has muted <Regret>
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[9:20:41 PM] <[LCC]det[CA]> !unmute Regret
[9:20:42 PM] * Channel message: <ChanServ> has unmute
[9:20:47 PM] <Regret> pathetic
[9:20:53 PM] * Channel message: <[LCC]det[CA]> has muted <Regret>
[9:21:19 PM] <Dotz> rofl
[9:21:48 PM] * Dotz feels that det continues to prove regrets point
[9:21:52 PM] <Dotz> Idk
[9:21:58 PM] <Dotz> maybe
[9:21:58 PM] <[LCC]det[CA]> Dotz, you need to stop this now
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[9:36:10 PM] <tzaeru> stop trolling.
[9:36:19 PM] <tzaeru> if you aren't, kill yourself and improve the gene pool <3
[9:36:19 PM] <[FZero]MrBlueSky> wow
[9:36:40 PM] <Dotz> so how the fuck did you not get muted?
[9:37:00 PM] <[FZero]MrBlueSky> Did someone just call Dotz a troll?
[9:37:32 PM] <TradeMark> tzaeru, you should know that stupid people are needed for society
[9:37:37 PM] <Dotz> honestly! regret got muted for talking bad about a CA admin, and tzaeru didn't get muted for telling me to commit suicide?!
[9:37:39 PM] <TradeMark> lower class makes our TV's
[9:37:41 PM] <TradeMark> and our computers
[9:37:42 PM] <TradeMark> etc
[9:38:20 PM] <[LCC]det[CA]> +1 CA, Join Oxygen
[9:38:25 PM] <Dotz> NO!
600000second mute in #main for criticizing CA developement.

Also no mute for telling someone to die..?

I am expecting this topic to be censored because this is "supposed to be handled by PMs". But who do I PM when nobody cares?

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 22:50
by REVENGE
Before anyone says moderation issues should only be discussed in PM, I would like to point out that these sort of problems affect almost everyone in the community, and should be open to public discussion.

Now, I'm sure det was not intending to be malicious, but this is sending poor signals to both the normal player-base and the moderators as well. Signals that moderation is less of a job, and more of a privilege to be used (and, apparently, abused) at the pleasure of the moderator.

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 22:50
by Peet
you go regret, stick it to The Man. You are obviously blameless and the entire moderation structure should be replaced with people who are not involved with this Conspiracy Association.

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 22:51
by Regret
Peet wrote:you go regret, stick it to The Man. You are obviously blameless and the entire moderation structure should be replaced with people who are not involved with this Conspiracy Association.
You have no idea how this is true.

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 22:55
by Peet
fuck da po-lease

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 22:58
by CarRepairer
Let's see...
[9:02:01 PM] <[LCC]det[CA]> do you have anything factual to say ?
[9:02:04 PM] <Regret> det, my complaint is that CA developement team is retarded, and their ego is seen all over the game
[9:02:15 PM] <Regret> from the decisions to include outright cheats to the unit names
[9:02:18 PM] <Dotz> the ZEUS morphs into an artillery
[9:02:19 PM] <[LCC]det[CA]> !mute Regret
[9:02:20 PM] * Channel message: <ChanServ> has muted <Regret>
Childishly insult the CA team with name-calling (which you are claiming is criticism).

Lying about CA (for those who don't know, "including outright cheats" is Regret's way of hating on widgets, except that people wouldn't know that unless they are told).

Dotz made a criticism of CA right there in your quote and he didn't get muted.

Conclusion: This is only one example of many, and you make yourself look wrong, wrong and wrong again. I don't miss hearing you talk when you're muted.

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 23:00
by Peet
CarRepairer wrote:Let's see...
[9:02:01 PM] <[LCC]det[CA]> do you have anything factual to say ?
[9:02:04 PM] <Regret> det, my complaint is that CA developement team is retarded, and their ego is seen all over the game
[9:02:15 PM] <Regret> from the decisions to include outright cheats to the unit names
[9:02:18 PM] <Dotz> the ZEUS morphs into an artillery
[9:02:19 PM] <[LCC]det[CA]> !mute Regret
[9:02:20 PM] * Channel message: <ChanServ> has muted <Regret>
Childishly insult the CA team with name-calling (which you are claiming is criticism).

Lying about CA (for those who don't know, "including outright cheats" is Regret's way of hating on widgets, except that people wouldn't know that unless they are told).

Dotz made a criticism of CA right there in your quote and he didn't get muted.

Conclusion: This is only one example of many, and you make yourself look wrong, wrong and wrong again. I don't miss hearing you talk when you're muted.
But you are a member of the CONSPIRACY ADMINISTRATION your words are simply propaganda for the cause of Completion!

Soon all Balancians will be ousted and their houses burned, their wives ravaged and their children eaten!

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 23:01
by Regret
CarRepairer wrote:Childishly insult the CA team with name-calling (which you are claiming is criticism).

Lying about CA (for those who don't know, "including outright cheats" is Regret's way of hating on widgets, except that people wouldn't know that unless they are told).

Dotz made a criticism of CA right there in your quote and he didn't get muted.

Conclusion: This is only one example of many, and you make yourself look wrong, wrong and wrong again. I don't miss hearing you talk when you're muted.
Someone also said to someone to die right there to improve the genepool and he didn't get muted.

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 23:01
by CarRepairer
Wait outside your home Peet, I'm sending a truck to pick you up. We'll go have a talk.

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 23:03
by Regret
Please do not derail the topic to your petty arguments.

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 23:12
by CarRepairer
600000second mute in #main for calling someone a noob, there was no prior conversation from [Fx]Drone.
Awesome! You show a quote out of context, then Chaosmonkey/Drone gives away the fact that det was politely trying to resolve a problem when you decided to insult moderation for no reason at which point he joins you in trolling. How cool is that!

http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=20033

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 23:13
by Regret
CarRepairer wrote:Awesome! You show a quote out of context, then Chaosmonkey/Drone gives away the fact that det was politely trying to resolve a problem when you decided to insult moderation for no reason at which point he joins you in trolling. How cool is that!

http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=20033
How did I quote out of context? Did Drone say something other than "det is a noob" ?

(note the 9minute distance from his message to my mute)

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 23:16
by SinbadEV
TL:DR; Yet... but I'll check it later... the easiest way to report abuse by a moderator is to message "Forum Moderators".

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 23:16
by Regret
SinbadEV wrote:TL:DR; Yet... but I'll check it later... the easiest way to report abuse by a moderator is to message "Forum Moderators".
Forum moderators are not lobby moderators.

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 23:19
by CarRepairer
The context is relevant. det obviously kicked you out of his game/host because you were being your usual self, then you decided to insult moderation in #main to vent your anger. The fact that Drone joined your trolling I'm sure is enough to push det over the edge and mute him but I sincerely don't feel bad about it.

I'm only arguing in here this because I know personally that det doesn't mute people often, and I've never seen him ban people. He's a very moderate moderator. Someone once teamkilled me in a game and when I told det, he said we should just ban him from our hosts. So don't try to push this notion that det is some sort of power hungry monster.

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 23:20
by Regret
CarRepairer wrote:The context is relevant. det obviously kicked you out of his game/host because you were being your usual self, then you decided to insult moderation in #main to vent your anger. The fact that he joined your trolling I'm sure is enough to push det over the edge and mute him but I sincerely don't feel bad about it.

I'm only arguing in here this because I know personally that det doesn't mute people often, and I've never seen him ban people. He's a very moderate moderator. Someone once teamkilled me in a game and when I told det, he said we should just ban him from our hosts. So don't try to push this notion that det is some sort of power hungry monster.
How did he join 'trolling' after 9 minutes by saying that det is a noob?

I'm not questioning your relationship with det. I am asking who is here to prevent this kind of user abuse.

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 23:21
by JohannesH
If someone calls me nub will they get muted?

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 23:23
by Caydr
If they were in #CA I think you got what you deserved. Admins are godlike in knowledge and eternal in glory.
[15:03:20] <Jazcash> You should make me op.
[15:03:40] <Caydr> I should make you op?
[15:03:46] <Jazcash> Totally
[15:03:51] <Caydr> explain your qualifications.
[15:03:57] <Jazcash> I'm pro
[15:04:06] <Caydr> you're hired.
[15:04:18] <Jazcash> Ok epic
[15:05:46] * Caydr Slaps Caydr around with a large PeeWee!
[15:06:07] * Caydr likes it
[15:06:11] * Caydr Slaps Caydr around with a large PeeWee!
[15:06:15] * Caydr wants it harder
[15:06:28] <Caydr> hmm..
[15:08:00] <Jazcash> D:
However, since this was in #main that was a bit strange behavior... The same standards of conduct for Off Topic should apply in the forum as in the lobby IMHO. In other words, anything goes short of... well, what isn't allowed tbh? Inciting to nerdrage?

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 23:24
by Regret
edit: got ninjaed :<

Re: Who to report to?

Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 23:24
by Caydr
edit: yes you did. :>