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but this video scared the crap out of me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUeoem1gR3s

So what? People's freedom to be ignorant doesn't scare me at all. It's necessary for a healthy society to exist.

Forceful ignorance, and bestowing ignorance upon the next generation is what scares me, personally.

Peet wrote:Forceful ignorance, and bestowing ignorance upon the next generation is what scares me, personally.

Meh, you don't really know what you believe is true any better than those people do. You were taught things and you don't have any better reason to believe they are right than these people. People need the freedom to follow their own personal reasoning more than they need empirically researched "facts". Especially about stupid things like dinosaurs and scientific dating processes.

There are no young earther historians with PHDs. We really don't have to worry about people like this determining the status of scientific progress. If these children grow up to be historians they will come to peace with the fact that these teachings were false, and if they don't it doesn't really matter anyways. Realizing that your parents and teachers didn't actually know everything, even when they said they did, is just part of growing up.

even if you are a christian jesus didn't create everything.. that is more awesome then I can handle and I want to lulz

i can answer your cartoon strip.

the reason why some monkeys eveolved to human state and some didnt is because there are diffrent types of monkeys. say theres group a, b, and c. a choses to stay in its current state (monkey) while b evolves into humans (human) and c stays at its current state. (monkey)

Thank you, Pharoph. You have grasped the point entirely.

Just for your general edumakatshun though, human beings are Apes, of the Hominidae family, or 'great apes' (incl chimpanzees, gorillas etc). Monkeys are a different family. We are both Primates and both Simians, but we are not Monkeys and they are not Apes.

omg i feel so excepted...

pharoph wrote:omg i feel so excepted...

Yes, you are "excepted" from normal conversation (due to being stupid). I was going to try to make a few points about why you're wrong in your post, but I feel it would be wasted.

How long would it take for a monkey to evolve into a man?

JAZCASH wrote:How long would it take for a monkey to evolve into a man?

Depends on how many typewriters they have.

HeavyLancer wrote:

JAZCASH wrote:How long would it take for a monkey to evolve into a man?

Depends on how many typewriters they have.

BUT TYPEWRITERS ARENT INVOLVED IN EVOLUTION

TYPEWRITERS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!

In soviet russia typewriter types you

SwiftSpear wrote:So what? People's freedom to be ignorant doesn't scare me at all. It's necessary for a healthy society to exist.

Depends on what you call healthy.

I do believe the T-Rex was a herbivore though. Try opening a prehistoric coconut without enormous fangs.

I'd say my faith in evolution is crumbling - how can evolution lead to people who are less intelligent than an avarage rock? At least the rocks are smart enough to stay quiet. "How do WE know god made birds to be birds? Cuz it says in teh bible!!!11eleven" and THEY accused scientists of circular reasoning *facepalm*

EDIT: I was being sarcastic...

Darwinian evolution is pretty much inapplicable to humans, as our societies form artificial influential factors to the lifespan and ability to reproduce of a given human.

Saktoth wrote:Thank you, Pharoph. You have grasped the point entirely.

Just for your general edumakatshun though, human beings are Apes, of the Hominidae family, or 'great apes' (incl chimpanzees, gorillas etc). Monkeys are a different family. We are both Primates and both Simians, but we are not Monkeys and they are not Apes.

Nor did we evolve from monkeys, or apes. Other primates (and indeed all extant species) have an equally long and usually convoluted evolutionary history. We humans are specifically derived from groups with no surviving members today, for example (won't give a full ancestry) the Australopithecines.

The ancestral lines which gave rise to monkeys and other apes diverged at different preceding points - the more closely related to us the species is, the more recently this split (speciation event) occurred.

Peet wrote:Darwinian evolution is pretty much inapplicable to humans, as our societies form artificial influential factors to the lifespan and ability to reproduce of a given human.

Absolutely, entirely untrue. Natural selection operates to retain characteristics that promote reproduction (and survival for reproduction) in the particular environmental conditions of a population. In our society the selective pressures may change but the underlying mechanisms are a basic, constant fact of biology, in regards to which humans enjoy no special status.

It is interesting to consider which genetic traits are currently being passed on at the highest frequency though. Are they those of the career minded, educated, athletic intellectuals who get so involved in life that they end up having time for a couple of kids at most, or those of the workshy troglodytic scrotes who see kids as child benefit income and sit on their ass pumping them out for their entire adult life?

Makes you warm to eugenics just a little in that darkened corner of your heart, doesn't it