Spring RTS Engine

Ok I can modle and I can texture now, what is the next step in unit creatoin? What program do I need? I need somthing simple and easy to learn.

Doesn't Upspring come first?

Yes, http://www.unknown-files.net/spring/3763/Upspring_154/

Tutorial for upspring. Where is it?

Can't you figure it out yourself like everyone else?

No, I don't even know what it does.

rattle wrote:Can't you figure it out yourself like everyone else?

Thats about as helpfull as a sack of potatos...

Anyway... Upspring is teh program that creates s3o's, which is the format of the models in spring. Basicly it imports your obj/3ds and lets you set up your images and exports it in a way spring can read.

It also lets you set up the peice heigherachy and the colision sphere and the height... and position the peices and if needed duplicate parts (like arms , legs)

I'm no expert though so dont ask me to tell you how. Im sure argh did a write up somewere though (or maybe that was a dream)

aGorm

The point is he hasn't yet looked at it but asks for help in advance.

Anyway:
http://spring.clan-sy.com/wiki/Mod_and_Unit_development

Thats about as helpfull as a sack of potatos

I know a lot of people who would accept that gratefully >__>

Hmm, I don't mean to sound rude either, but thats how I figure out stuff. You're going to have to play with the tools a bit anyway, since every feature and nuance are not covered in the guide and such. Call it reverse engineering, playing, tinkering, or noobing, it works, and you learn well.

I like potatoes.

ok put it this way. I can't get a modle into UpSpring, the open thing in the "file" menu does not see Wings modles. How do you get one in?

ianmac wrote:ok put it this way. I can't get a modle into UpSpring, the open thing in the "file" menu does not see Wings modles. How do you get one in?

export the 'modle' from wings as a 3ds. dont forget to uncheck the 'swap y and z axes' option and to check the 'export uv co-ordinates' option

3DS imports usually have broken normals half of the time for me resulting in incorrect shading...

use obj exports.

Then go into upspring, click on objects tab, click add empty, then on the top menu insert object from file, the in the piece list double click on whatever you named the empty object and a little liine will appear below it. click on the one below and press M.(merge)

For me inserting objects doesn't make them show up in the object browser until I've created a second empty (can be deleted immediately afterwards but must be created once).

@KDR_11k:
As it's said in that tutorial (that PDF one I think) you have to double click on the object you added something to - then it'll show up...

@Forboding:
Why so complex? Just load the object and it's fine. You won't see anything in the object list yet because it has no name. But you can select the very first line and name it...

Forboding Angel wrote:use obj exports.

Then go into upspring, click on objects tab, click add empty, then on the top menu insert object from file, the in the piece list double click on whatever you named the empty object and a little liine will appear below it. click on the one below and press M.(merge)

Group your pieces in wings first, makes less objects and no need to merge anything.

I've also had a few problems with wings. I model in Rhino, so I tried exporting as an OBJ and then UV mapping in wings using the wiki guides. The problem is if i export as one big OBJ then the unit doesnt retain its "pieces" and when i load the individual pieces in Upspring the UV is completely misaligned.