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Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.1

Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 16:34
by zerver
TradeMark wrote:LUPS should be disabled by default, so annoying to always click it off every release >_>

hmm, would be useful if we could track which widgets people use (from the BA default widgets). so if theres such widget like LUPS or RedUI/loLUI then we could understand that nobody actually uses them and make them disabled by default.
That's unnecessary, I'd say ALL widgets off by default. IMO it is important to 'ship' the game in a minimum configuration to ensure good performance even for lower end systems.
Noob users may not even realize there are such things as widgets and that the FPS may be quadrupled by disabling the right ones.

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 17:06
by TradeMark
indeed, and even less know you can use mousewheel to scroll down in the list :D

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 17:28
by Blue_Falcon
New lua widget required - make list have columns and sort alphabetically. :P
I'd do it myself but don't know how :P :lol:

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 20:58
by Klopper
Saw strange behavior of the Core SAM lately: After shooting a volley at enemy bombers, it started spinning fast and didn't fire anymore although enemy bombers were close. That behavior continued for something like 10-20 seconds or so. The SAM wasn't blocked/stunned/whatever.

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 21:10
by Beherith
Ive also seen the sam do that, though I thought it was just unable to fire cause of wind around it.

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 21:31
by hoijui
moho mexes do not produce metal as long as the T1 mex is still there, they still use energy though. when the T1 is removed, they start producing metal, but they wont start turning.
happens for both factions.

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 21:35
by Jazcash
We need a widget that increases FPS.

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 21:47
by Pxtl
hoijui wrote:moho mexes do not produce metal as long as the T1 mex is still there, they still use energy though. when the T1 is removed, they start producing metal, but they wont start turning.
happens for both factions.
...

:shock:

I can't imagine how many times I've been bit by that and not noticed it. WTF???

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 22:04
by Regret
hoijui wrote:moho mexes do not produce metal as long as the T1 mex is still there, they still use energy though. when the T1 is removed, they start producing metal, but they wont start turning.
happens for both factions.
The player was e stalling, that's why there is no m income from said mex. There is no such bug as you described.

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 22:56
by Neddie
The mex to the upper right traditionally takes priority, this is how you could steal allied mex spots of the TA style from AA onwards...

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 00:26
by TradeMark
upper right priority? wtf... theres no priority, they share the metal, if you remove the normal mex, the moho will produce as much metal as it did with normal mex + moho mex.

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 01:58
by 1v0ry_k1ng
so, why can sampsons shoot ground but not jethro?

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 04:07
by JohannesH
Regret wrote:
hoijui wrote:moho mexes do not produce metal as long as the T1 mex is still there, they still use energy though. when the T1 is removed, they start producing metal, but they wont start turning.
happens for both factions.
The player was e stalling, that's why there is no m income from said mex. There is no such bug as you described.
it uses e in the picture -> should produce m. But, I cant say whats really going on based on just a stupid screenshot

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 10:41
by triton
1v0ry_k1ng wrote:so, why can sampsons shoot ground but not jethro?
Jethro are underwater too, I think it's fine, but samsons should have lower hp.

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 10:41
by Sirex
I don't know if this is the right thread to post but i do it.

The game has crashed everysingle time i play now on 7.1X. Same fault, microsoft c++ runtime library error.

Heres the latest game infolog, it didnt save the replay for that game :(.
EDIT: oh wait it did, i post now.

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 14:12
by 1v0ry_k1ng
triton wrote:
1v0ry_k1ng wrote:so, why can sampsons shoot ground but not jethro?
Jethro are underwater too, I think it's fine, but samsons should have lower hp.
anphibious jethro is a redundant ability, on a sea map- eg, sands of war- you are never going to go kbot, you are going to go vehicle because you have anphibious assault tank and con vehicles. early game it is useless because you only have one lab and if it is water that will be vehicle, sea or air, lategame it is useless because you will have hovers (which can fire whilst on the water), sea or t2 air spam

sampson needs high hp to fulfill its current skirmishing role, its not op.

Jethro with the same weapon as the sampson would be inherantly less effective (it has lower hp, speed) but it would at least give bots a few more options (especially core...) and give them a little more flexibility

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 14:26
by TradeMark
i think they are amphi because you can also build them in the underwater factory

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Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 14:32
by 1v0ry_k1ng
sure, but in any situation where the bot lab is optimal the anphib jethro is not useful

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 14:38
by Pxtl
Actually, speaking of which, the Naval Engineer needs to be able to build those too. Right now the core Naval Eng can't build any amphibious AA units while the Arm one can (the Pelican). This means that, when making landfall, you have no anti-air coverage. My approach is usually to build an amphicom, use a SAM ship to cover it, and then build a kbot lab at the landfall location.

Re: Balanced Annihilation V7.11

Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 15:51
by JohannesH
1v0ry_k1ng wrote:Jethro with the same weapon as the sampson would be inherantly less effective (it has lower hp, speed) but it would at least give bots a few more options (especially core...) and give them a little more flexibility
No, aa bot atm is faster, turns faster, and is much cheaper than samson. If you took jethro as it is now and changed only weapon it would be better than samson in most situations. Though of course it would be still worse aa than with current weapon.

And I have an idea for a map where the amphib ability comes to be pretty useful. Current sea maps arent really varied at all, theres a lot of funky stuff to be done there.