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Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 16:41
by LOrDo
Well if your gonna join the army, make it the canadian one.
Bush has warped the minds of americans(Like Deci :\) into thinking that all Iraqi's and Afgani's are terrorists...Damn him.
Well, at least the republicans totally failed this election. Lesse how bad the Democrats can screw this up. A shame that its always voting for the lesser evil.

Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 17:34
by bwansy
LOrDo wrote:Bush has warped the minds of americans(Like Deci :\) into thinking that all Iraqi's and Afgani's are terrorists...Damn him.
Not Bush alone, but the media that is constantly (or worse yet, increasingly) imposinf the ideas of racism and violence to everyone who blindly accepts them. Unless every single one of the racists on this planet miraculously disappear in a flash, they will continue to poison the minds of the next generation.
EDIT: Oh yeah, let's see how the Democrats do. Anyway I am safe from Bush's invation because there is no oil in here and it is not a good place for him to place his nuclear missiles (that is, unless he wakes up one morning and suddenly decided to melt away the whole arctic ice cap in a few days instead of waiting for decades).

Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 17:37
by Zoombie
Just a minor ironic note:

I love how you two say Bush has warped the minds of Americans into thinking that all afgani and all iraqi people are terroists. As if ALL americans are brainwashed and ALL americans blindly listen to everything thing they say.

Also Deci NEVER said that he thought ALL iraqis are trying to kill him. He just said he wasn't going to be open minded to people who were trying to kill him, like...well...terroists.

Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 17:42
by bwansy
Did LOrDo say the word "all"?
I know. This is a common mistake made by everyone (I am no exception) to assume that someone is refering to ALL people in a specific group. That's how misunderstanding starts.

Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 17:43
by Zoombie
It never hurts be to be clear. Americans is vauge. Some americans, or right wing americans, or gullable americans are much more spesific and less easy to misunderstand.

Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 17:46
by bwansy
That's exactly what I am thinking. But people are lazy...

Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 17:48
by Zoombie
Then it seems like we're in perfect agreement!

Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 19:13
by KDR_11k
EDIT: Okay, I failed at the internets.

Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 22:21
by Felix the Cat
LOrDo wrote:Well if your gonna join the army, make it the canadian one.
Bush has warped the minds of americans(Like Deci :\) into thinking that all Iraqi's and Afgani's are terrorists...Damn him.
Well, at least the republicans totally failed this election. Lesse how bad the Democrats can screw this up. A shame that its always voting for the lesser evil.
So basically, in your world view, everyone in America is either:
1) A sane, pacifist, anti-war liberal, or
2) Brainwashed by Bush?

How wrong. Some of us are neither head-in-the-sand liberals nor Bush-worshipping rednecks.

Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 22:28
by pintle
/me pointless interjects with antagonistic rhetoric


so all liberals have their head in the sand? When were you last beaten by riot policemen?

Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 22:31
by espylaub
Spiked, if you display that attitude of yours at your recruitment interview, they're probably not going to want you anymore :D

Not to be insulting, but your view of the world is ridiculously one-sided and hypocritical. The US Army would love you.

And for fuck's sake, what kind of person actually wants to learn to kill and "play with explosives"? What are you, twelve? If you want to make America safer, become an activist for fair trade, donate to organisations that teach villagers in third world countries how to build wells, support politicians who endorse diplomacy instead of war, and in a couple of decades, most of the rest of a world will run out of reasons to hate you.

What do you think will make people like America again? Restrictive trade agreements that keep poor countries poor? Sending nervous 19-year olds into foreign countries that shoot buses full of schoolchildren because they feel threatened? Bullying and ignoring diplomats of other countries? Advocating the "glass parking lot" and "kill all the hadjis"? "Fight them here so we don't have to fight them here?" "Terrorists want to blow up our children?" If you seriously think that, join the army and get yourself shot. You'll be doing the western world a favour.

Pah, terrorists. Ridiculous. Even if you had one 9/11 a year, more Americans would die of slipping in their showers. So? War on Showers! More Americans are accidentally shot by a family member each year. War on Guns! Even if you had one 9/11 a month, more Americans would die in traffic accidents each year. War on Cars!

Terrorism is a negligible threat. And if it is serious, it is not something that you can send an army to destroy. Terrorism is not a missile silo somewere in Russia, or an Aircraft carrier in the Pacific. You can't blow it up, you can't nuke it, you can't make it disappear by killing thousands of people. Terrorism is an idea, and there are people in the world that think it is a good idea. That will never change. You can influence how many people think this way, but you won't do that by keeping their countries poor and invading them for no reason.

Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 22:55
by Zoombie
I always thought the best was yo ruin a terroists day is to just laugh at them. They are just bully's with explosives. They want us to bow to them in some way or another, or else they start blowing things up. Best way to repond to that is just laugh at their idiocy.

Oh and use those bomb sniffing dogs. And security helps too. And other nice things like X-ray machines and police officers...

Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 23:16
by bwansy
espylaub wrote:And for fuck's sake, what kind of person actually wants to learn to kill and "play with explosives"? What are you, twelve? If you want to make America safer, become an activist for fair trade, donate to organisations that teach villagers in third world countries how to build wells, support politicians who endorse diplomacy instead of war, and in a couple of decades, most of the rest of a world will run out of reasons to hate you.
Well said. Unfortunately, for some americans who have been brainwashed, namely, Deci and Spiked (though he is supposed to ba a Canadian), these methods are totally useless and pointless, because Bush WANTS WAR!!! OIL!!! AND POWER!!! UNLIMITED POWER!!! OK, he can't use force lightning, though.

EDIT: Felix: LOrDo never said so. It is your subjective thought. He only meant SOME americans have been brainwashed. SOME. The rest can be anything: neutral, democrat, etc.

Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 23:38
by Snipawolf
I think that all TERRORIST (TERRORIST, MOTHER FUCKERS, NOT EVERY DAMN AFGHANI WHO LIVES IN AFGHANISTAN!) are a bunch of stuck up shits, who can't get a real job, and blame everything on people that have it better than them!

TERRORISM is the most retarded idea humans have ever come up with, it was spawned by their egotistical, stuck up attitude, or sterotyping. EITHER WAY, its a pathetic idealogy, spawned by weaklings, for weaklings.

TERRORIST LEADERS are COWARDS, who have no balls whatsoever. Both of the large ones I knew had at least 6 fakes found already! They hide when they should be the ones on the front line! INSTEAD, they hide in holes and wait for the soldiers to pass by!

LEADERS like Kim-Jong WHATEVER THE FUCK HIS NAME IS, are also being incredibly stupid in their political thinkings. "We have nukes, mess with me and I'll use them on you!"
"Well guess what! If you do, we'll reduce your WHOLE DAMN COUNTRY to a wasteland full of FREAKS! Why the hell would we mess with you anyway!?"

POLITICS is a retarded issue, and so are politicians in most cases.

PEACE can ONLY be obtained through WAR!

Sorry for being such a "Brain-Washed by Bush, Sterotyping, Patriotic, One-sided, Angry, Hot-blooded, Redneck American" :wink:

Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 23:43
by Felix the Cat
This thread is making me laugh inside.

(Those of you who have been around the block a couple times in the Spring community know why!)
espylaub wrote:And for fuck's sake, what kind of person actually wants to learn to kill and "play with explosives"? What are you, twelve? If you want to make America safer, become an activist for fair trade, donate to organisations that teach villagers in third world countries how to build wells, support politicians who endorse diplomacy instead of war, and in a couple of decades, most of the rest of a world will run out of reasons to hate you.
The problem is, my friend, that it is by and large not poor villagers from third world countries who are crashing airplanes into buildings and blowing holes in boats and blowing up subways and buses. Many of the 9/11 attackers were educated men from middle-class families.

If poverty leads to hate of America leads to terrorism then, by your logic, the 9/11 hijackers should have originated primarily from Mozambique, Burkina Faso, Niger, and Somalia - not from Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

Support politicians who endorse diplomacy instead of war? With all due respect, fighting terrorism is a little bit more complex than ending a schoolyard duel. We're not going to stop terrorist attacks from happening again by sitting around a table talking about our feelings. This is exactly what I was referring to by head-in-the-sand liberalism.

Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 23:48
by 1v0ry_k1ng
to be honest, The only solution to the Koreans is to leave them alone. as long as nobody invades them, there should be no trouble. They'll just have to be treated with the respect of the other powers no matter how demented their leadership. if they do laugh an offensive, america will have an airborne amarda in there before the missles even land and its goodbye communism and anyone alive.

Posted: 10 Nov 2006, 00:10
by bwansy
Felix the Cat wrote:If poverty leads to hate of America leads to terrorism then, by your logic, the 9/11 hijackers should have originated primarily from Mozambique, Burkina Faso, Niger, and Somalia - not from Saudi Arabia and Egypt.
The point is, if many of your fellow citizens are suffering from poverty, and that is caused by a certain country, while you have the money and the ability, would you revenge for them? Just that they are educated middle-class dosn't mean EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IN THE COUNTRY is educated middle-class.
Felix the Cat wrote:Support politicians who endorse diplomacy instead of war? With all due respect, fighting terrorism is a little bit more complex than ending a schoolyard duel. We're not going to stop terrorist attacks from happening again by sitting around a table talking about our feelings. This is exactly what I was referring to by head-in-the-sand liberalism.
By being diplomatic we can't stop people who are already terrorists, but we can STOP MORE PEOPLE FROM BECOMING ONE. That is the point: to solve a problem, first we have to stop it from becoming worse. And do remember, terrorists are humans, too, just like you and me. If they see that America is actually friendly (which, thanks to all those replubicans and Bush-worshippers, would probably never happen) they may turn away from terrorism. They have only been brainwashed by their leaders to do stupid things. Just like some americans. And many others alike.

Posted: 10 Nov 2006, 00:20
by Snipawolf
Some place got hit by a hurricane, what did good 'ole America do!? We helped, shipped thousands of tons of supplies and medical aid..

What did we get? Anything? No!? Of course we didn't, its called generosity..

So I guess the terrorist give us bombs when we do nothing, huh!?

Not to mention, before I fly off the handle, could someone tell me how America has made millions of arabians and whatnot poor!?

Posted: 10 Nov 2006, 00:22
by SpikedHelmet
to be honest, The only solution to the Koreans is to leave them alone.
Ahahahahhah

Yeah that sure worked. That democrat Clinton "left them alone" for 8 years and look what happened -- they developed a nuke! Clinton also left bin Laden alone for 8 years, and look what happened.

You're a fucking moron if you honestly believe that "leaving them alone" will magically make them decide its probably best not to try and kill us. And people say Republicans are stupid... hahahahahahahaha right.

Posted: 10 Nov 2006, 00:22
by Zoombie
It was a tidal wave, actually. The rest of the world got hit by the tidal wave. America got hit by the hurricane.

EDIT: Also are we even sure if the Korians HAVE a bomb? THe information I hear is that they were blowing it out their ass and only got a 'kind of nukelear' explosion.