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Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 11:07
by Forboding Angel
:-(

Not fair, he has the name of a childhood hero.

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Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 11:19
by Gota
So you scratched him and he twisted your head off ^^
buy 32

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 11:39
by Das Bruce

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 11:46
by Jazcash

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 11:50
by CommanderKeen
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?la ... &word2=x64

x86 is what 32 bit is userly referred to.

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 11:52
by CommanderKeen

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 12:00
by Beherith
I upgraded to win7 x64 two weeks ago, after spending 10 years on win2k/XP.
Ive had 4 gb ram for a bit now, and here are my results.

-Overall program execution speed is very similar, some stuff is a tiny bit faster, some a tiny bit slower.
-Program load times are way better with win7 x64
-Multitasking works much better, my system thrashes less even when both cores are maxed out.
-It seems to have better thread handling; I can render with two cores in Carrara, and still play spring without there being any major hookups. I set carrara to low priority and it really obeys it. I don't even notice that its running save for the fans being louder.
-Much better photoshop performance on large images (>1gb psd files)
-Some very minor programs didnt run for me, but nothing irreplaceable or vital.
-I had no driver hiccups, but my config is fairly common.
-Spring performance in super large games seems to be worse

Overall Im happy I switched.

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 12:52
by Gota

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 13:35
by Licho
Beherith wrote:I upgraded to win7 x64 two weeks ago, after spending 10 years on win2k/XP.
Ive had 4 gb ram for a bit now, and here are my results.

-Overall program execution speed is very similar, some stuff is a tiny bit faster, some a tiny bit slower.
-Program load times are way better with win7 x64
-Multitasking works much better, my system thrashes less even when both cores are maxed out.
-It seems to have better thread handling; I can render with two cores in Carrara, and still play spring without there being any major hookups. I set carrara to low priority and it really obeys it. I don't even notice that its running save for the fans being louder.
-Much better photoshop performance on large images (>1gb psd files)
-Some very minor programs didnt run for me, but nothing irreplaceable or vital.
-I had no driver hiccups, but my config is fairly common.
-Spring performance in super large games seems to be worse

Overall Im happy I switched.
What you mentioning is just "features" of windows 7, not related to 64bit at all..
Windows 7 64bit IS much better choice than windows XP of course, mainly because of the mentioned performance gains in "office" programs. And yeah spring is slower for me too.. by about 20%

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 13:55
by Beherith
Imo it all boils down to wether you have 4 gigs of ram, and if not, do you plan on upgrading to it soon.
I frequently use assloads of ram, for world machine and photoshop and the likes.
For worldmachine, use of x64 is almost mandatory, I dont know how I got around without it before...

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 15:52
by BaNa
Just upgraded to i5 with 4 gigs of ram and win7 64bit is fucking awesome on it :) I'd say go for it, seems compatible with every old software I threw at it.

I think this may be the clincher here:
This also means that your video cards and other devices will not be stealing usable memory space from the operating system.
A lot of cards are in the 1 gig range now, and that would fuck you over in 32bit, no?

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 17:18
by CarRepairer
Forboding Angel wrote:Subversion has never crashed for me.
Same here, been using Tortoise on Vistax64 and 7x64 for over two years now and never had a problem. Something else must be wrong with your comp, Licho.

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 18:56
by Licho
Its actually well known bug, try commiting to several different repos quickly, tsvncache will eat 100% cpu forever and at high priority, you have to kill it.

Happens only on 64bit OS with multicore, has been reported.

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 20:18
by Forboding Angel
I'm actually interested here, so don't take this as being sarcastic or whatever....

Define quickly, you mean like at the same time, or one right after the other?

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 20:52
by AF
Forb I thought you'd have cottoned on to the concept of 'being trolled by someone else' by now.

x64 gets rid of some cruft in x86 regarding 16bit stuff, but its the same for most performance wise.

However, processor intensive stuff, such as compiling code, encoding, databases, server tasks essentially, all benefit enormously when ran in 64bit mode.

XP is a 32bit OS that just happens to run under 64bit.

Vista/7 is a 64bit OS that just happens to have a 32bit version. It was designed to run in a 64bit environment.

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 17 Feb 2010, 04:12
by Tribulex
lol at you silly noobs whining about 64 bits when i have to try to get linux to run in 256 bits.

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 17 Feb 2010, 06:04
by Forboding Angel
AF wrote:Forb I thought you'd have cottoned on to the concept of 'being trolled by someone else' by now.
I'm well aware of the fact that he was trying to troll me (while sucking miserably). The more interesting question is why the mods let it happen.

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 17 Feb 2010, 10:05
by Caydr
Beherith wrote:I upgraded to win7 x64 two weeks ago, after spending 10 years on win2k/XP.
Ive had 4 gb ram for a bit now, and here are my results.

-Overall program execution speed is very similar, some stuff is a tiny bit faster, some a tiny bit slower.
-Program load times are way better with win7 x64
-Multitasking works much better, my system thrashes less even when both cores are maxed out.
-It seems to have better thread handling; I can render with two cores in Carrara, and still play spring without there being any major hookups. I set carrara to low priority and it really obeys it. I don't even notice that its running save for the fans being louder.
-Much better photoshop performance on large images (>1gb psd files)
-Some very minor programs didnt run for me, but nothing irreplaceable or vital.
-I had no driver hiccups, but my config is fairly common.
-Spring performance in super large games seems to be worse

Overall Im happy I switched.
It's a pity you couldn't do a direct Windows 7 x32/x64 comparison, but I guess that would really be asking a lot. I only say this because much of what you said simply sounds like the difference between any version of XP and any version of 7.

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 17 Feb 2010, 10:18
by Beherith
Yeah, the comparison may be unfair. But I didnt see a point installing win7 x86 too.

Re: Have you gone 64-bit? Impressions?

Posted: 18 Feb 2010, 01:20
by CommanderKeen
Forboding Angel wrote:
AF wrote:Forb I thought you'd have cottoned on to the concept of 'being trolled by someone else' by now.
I'm well aware of the fact that he was trying to troll me (while sucking miserably). The more interesting question is why the mods let it happen.
Perhaps because I wasn't trolling.

After what some of the other people have had to say about x64 it might be worth a shot, I'll install it on my laptop and see if it makes any difference. I just hope it can run Dosbox with my games.