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Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 00:56
by Snipawolf
Well, going by that description, I do believe I am/was depressed...
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 01:56
by FLOZi
SwiftSpear wrote:Being depressed isn't being sad. Being depressed is being down on life, thinking things are pointless, not feeling worth anything, not feeling good for anything, feeling like no one cares about you, or that the people who care about you are wasting their time. It's also correlated with a strong sense of not wanting to do anything and feeling unwilling/too beat up to work.
Sad people can be cheered up, but depressed people mostly need support, and the time to get over it. The worst thing to do is pile more on the shoulders of someone who already feels overwhelmed, and more can even be something little, like forcing them out the door. Even the most basic of human courtesies can seem like a nightmare when you're depressed, if someone is too depressed to go out, making them feel worse about it is the last thing they need.
Excellent synopsis.
It'd be interesting to do a study on the relationship between depression (and other mental illness) and high internet usage. Things are just *easier* here, as well as being provided with nigh on infinite distractions.
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 02:46
by TradeMark
SwiftSpear wrote:feeling like no one cares about you, or that the people who care about you are wasting their time
I would call that selfpity. But it goes with the depression, yeah... silly human beings...
I've had hard depression, but not anymore, i got over it by facing the truth: nothing is worth anything, and life sucks, etc.
What longer you are living in the dreamland/selfpityland, that deeper your depression will be.
WAKE UP! Just wake up! Damn...
Silly human mind...
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 02:48
by SwiftSpear
Snipawolf wrote:Well, going by that description, I do believe I am/was depressed...
Occasional depression is incredibly common these days, in fact you might call it epidemic. However, some people are constant suffers, depending on the severity and the duration it's often a good idea to seek medical attention.
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 02:55
by FLOZi
Also, they should make the wax coating on anti-depressants less bitter.
'Do I kill myself or keep taking these horrible tasting things for possibly the rest of my life'
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 03:16
by Snipawolf
Yes, it does seem to occur everyonce in a while..
In a few ways, its similar to a modding burnout.
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 03:25
by Neddie
Chronic or Major Depression should be treated medically, but there are no sure treatments and no easy solutions.
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 03:31
by Snipawolf
Well, an easy way to clear mine up, is to be lead into something.
Sometimes, we all just need someone to follow, you know what I'm saying? Just doing anything clears it up, though it happens a lot less now that I am playing a violent, competitive sport. Baseball was boring compared to it
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 03:39
by Pressure Line
FLOZi wrote:Also, they should make the wax coating on anti-depressants less bitter.
'Do I kill myself or keep taking these horrible tasting things for possibly the rest of my life'
psh, i found the side effects of the crap i was on to be worse than feeling depressed, so i stopped taking them
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 03:47
by Neddie
I've never found a good anti-depressant.
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 03:52
by Snipawolf
I've never even taken a pill before, I have a feeling I may not ever need one.
Also, does not caring about hardly anything count, or is that my normal personality? I mean, if someone asks me "which would you prefer" I generally reply "I don't care." I have pretty much NO preferences whatsoever...
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 03:53
by FLOZi
Pressure Line wrote:FLOZi wrote:Also, they should make the wax coating on anti-depressants less bitter.
'Do I kill myself or keep taking these horrible tasting things for possibly the rest of my life'
psh, i found the side effects of the crap i was on to be worse than feeling depressed, so i stopped taking them
For me, the side-effects subsided after about a month. It was an unpleasant month for sure, things got (much) worse before getting better, and they aren't a wonder drug to make you happy all the time, but they have helped to put me 'back on an even keel' as it were.
Citalopram, btw.
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 04:24
by SwiftSpear
Snipawolf wrote:I've never even taken a pill before, I have a feeling I may not ever need one.
Also, does not caring about hardly anything count, or is that my normal personality? I mean, if someone asks me "which would you prefer" I generally reply "I don't care." I have pretty much NO preferences whatsoever...
It's a personality issue. Depression can effect everyone, it's a chemical thing, and since it effects different people who fundamentally think very differently it will look very different in symptom depending who is experiencing it. "not caring" about things of preference doesn't indicate depression, it indicates somewhat of an abstract mindset and a disinterest in menial things, this is very normal mind working for many people who are not at all depressed.
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 13:03
by Saktoth
My ex-girlfriend was clinically depressed (And a psychologist! Ha!).
Best thing you could do for her was forcing her out the door, she said so herself. She didnt need security and a confidant, she needed friends to goof around with and crack jokes with and not take it all too seriously. I was far too much into the coddling and 'poor thing' and hugs and 'hope you feel better', which was really, really awful for her. Then of course i eventually got sick of the fact that all my efforts were futile and i became non-responsive. I guess thus the 'ex'?
I would call that selfpity. But it goes with the depression, yeah... silly human beings...
I've had hard depression, but not anymore, i got over it by facing the truth: nothing is worth anything, and life sucks, etc.
What longer you are living in the dreamland/selfpityland, that deeper your depression will be. WAKE UP! Just wake up! Damn...
Silly human mind...
Exactly. Nihilism (and the internet) is what has kept me (relatively) sane for 10 years. Once you are brought back to ground zero and must live by what
you think is important, it puts you back in control.
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 21:37
by Neddie
I think this may belong in Off-Topic. It is an active topic which has little to do with Art or Modeling.
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 21:38
by Snipawolf
It goes both ways. He is having a problem producing said art, but we aren't quite discussing art, either.
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 22:57
by Saktoth
It is about overcoming artistic slump, dealing with depression and finding inspiration.
If you dont think thats related to art and modelling, you dont know enough artists.
Its on topic, unless Pressure says otherwise, IMO.
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 23:06
by Neddie
I am an artist.
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 23:09
by Saktoth
But you might be one of those rare, well adjusted artists who doesnt suffer from depression and frustrating artistic block.
Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 23:14
by Neddie
Or I might be another sort of rare artist.