Spring RTS Engine

Open Source Realtime Strategy Game Engine
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We dont actual have TA...

https://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=11877

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Posted: 19 Sep 2007, 17:42
by KingRaptor
Make of this what you will.
[11:24:33 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> And really, what's the big idea with instigating fights with people for no reason?
[11:24:39 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> Not once, but TWICE!
[11:24:50 PM] <Tired> Fights? I'm the offended party here. Oo
[11:25:09 PM] <Tired> I was just sitting there, minding my own business, and people start throwing hissy fits at me. =)
[11:26:34 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> You weren't even mentioned in the first thread till you came in and started attacking Gundam. oO
[11:26:56 PM] <Tired> Which thread's that? The one attacking jK? =P
[11:27:25 PM] <Tired> You have to realize that I don't check the forums on my own - people link me threads when they think injustice is going on, and I spare 5 minutes of my time to save the day. Oo
[11:27:42 PM] <Tired> Took hits for XHC and WarC both back in the day, before they went crazy on me.
[11:28:27 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> So who was it that had you flip out on smoth's work then? Oo
[11:28:37 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> Oh, wait. Never mind.
[11:28:41 PM] <Tired> None of your business, although I know who it was. =P
[11:28:50 PM] <Tired> I tried hard to help smoth in early '06.
[11:29:40 PM] <Tired> He wasn't receptive, though, and trash talked everyone that wasn't him, so I lost interest. Now, if he harasses his betters (those who care about players), then I can send him into a rage with just a word or phrase.
[11:30:18 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> Can and should are rather different words, don't you think? ~~
[11:30:59 PM] <Tired> Different, yes, but much as validity and truth produce soundness, capability and application make the world a better place in this instance.
[11:35:33 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> I fail to see how dumping gasoline on a forum flamewar is beneficial to the world. Oo
[11:35:47 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> Not that the thread shouldn't have been locked.
[11:35:51 PM] <Tired> Simple - it gets everything out in the open so no emotions stew.
[11:36:02 PM] <Tired> Also, it's a form of punishment for those who get easily riled up.
[11:36:34 PM] <Tired> The moderators here are biased - they only punish what suits their selfish interests. As I said the day they appeared, they didn't belong here.
[11:38:17 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> If you say so. ~~
[11:38:31 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> More importantly, as for the Zenith, if what TRO tells me is correct, your implied argument that it being in Talon is as much stealing as you putting it in TiA doesn't hold water.
[11:38:33 PM] <Tired> You wouldn't keep asking me about these things if you didn't want my opinion. =)
[11:38:53 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> The Zenith isn't a renamed Czar - it's just a generic metallic donut with a death ray.
[11:38:56 PM] <Tired> Of course that's what he's telling you. He's a liar. Oo
[11:39:12 PM] <Tired> Read the literature yourself, though, on GPL and derivative works.
[11:39:43 PM] <Tired> Possibly, he has rights to the specific elements of the script that make it turn. That's it. Even the textures are strictly derivative.
[11:39:56 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> Is Talon GPLed?
[11:40:29 PM] <Tired> Sure - the parts of it that aren't stolen and the elements of code that aren't based off of other TA scripts.
[11:41:16 PM] <Tired> If whoever holds TA's copyright withdraws their permission for him to use their copyrights, though, then the race won't function.

Posted: 19 Sep 2007, 19:23
by ralphie
My general response is amusement at how easy it is to rile up this community.

Posted: 19 Sep 2007, 19:36
by smoth
I like how tired actively goes around bad mouthing me when by and large I leave him alone except when he acts like a tard in a thread I am posting in. It is easy to slander someone when they are unavailable to defend them self.

funny, I just looked through tireds post history, no posts in my gundam threads. Funny isn't it? In fact the last time tired was in one of my threads was when he was trolling me.

Posted: 19 Sep 2007, 19:52
by KDR_11k
Tired is an antisocial asshole, that's all there is to him. He loves annoying people and should be banned from both the lobby and the forums forever.

Posted: 19 Sep 2007, 22:26
by REVENGE
Somebody explain to me what the fuck anything on this last page has had to do with an OTA clone for Spring?

Anyways, it seems that right now there isn't much point or interest in making a perfect OTA clone for Spring? I mean Classic OTA and BOTA are sortof close...but the engine differences just make it painful to try and duplicate OTA. Besides, at the rate TA3D is currently being developed, we'll have a nice looking multiplayer fully 3D OTA clone soon enough, complete with OTA maps and unit dynamics.

Posted: 19 Sep 2007, 22:39
by TheRegisteredOne
[11:38:56 PM] <Tired> Of course that's what he's telling you. He's a liar. Oo
LOL, Tired is a fucking bastard. Make of this what you will. How the Zenith came to be:
TheRegisteredOne to KingRaptor wrote:the zenith was modelled after seeing a flying saucer that was an actual rip of the supreme commander model ingame in TA (this was never released, btw), and everyone was like OMGLOLBBQ over this round thing that could be model in like 5 minutes that was crappily textured. So I modelled the Zenith in response to that with "Why rip from supcom when you can simply model your own?". I modelled the Zenith, with no intention of actually going and texturing it because it contains too many shades that were simply not in the TA palette. So basically, I didn't do anything about it for months. Then I began modelling my own mothership (it was intented to be a unit that builts a landed version of itself which then absorbes the mobile version, making it, effectively, a mobile factory that must be deployed). Then the model sucked ass, so i decided to use the zenith as the crappily textured supcom rip was already so popular, and spent a few hours actually making the shades. When I modelled the zenith, i did not use the supcom image as reference. I also textured the zenith in a completely cooler way imho. So no, it was not intented to be a 100% czar. If it was, it is a crappy rip.
evidence to substantiate my claim:
http://www.tauniverse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36638
http://www.tauniverse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36794
Of course, if Tired is actually right about all this, he should simply port supcom's Czar into spring with all its fancy UV mapping instead of ripping my lowly duplicate of it. It would be perfectly legal and alright. after all it, the Czar is obviously a duplicate of various generic motherships from such popular entertainment like independence day and V:
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Posted: 19 Sep 2007, 23:21
by Dead.Rabit
i thaught that this was OTA. probably doesnt work any more, i think its still in .hpi format.

u cant say that u want OTA except for this 1 little thing. coz then its not OTA any more.

thus the birth of eXtended balanced and absolute annihilation (theres probably some i forgot about or missed.)

though i never played OTA so i wouldnt know if its 100% accurate. in fact ive only played total annihilation once.

in short, go to file universe. download OTA, fiddle with it until it works. et viola. =]
D.R

Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 04:26
by JoseJoas
So come play some TA, Reg. Be glad to show you what your lowly duplicate looks like ingame. Hosting a game right now. =)

Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 05:13
by TheRegisteredOne
Tired wrote:So come play some TA, Reg. Be glad to show you what your lowly duplicate looks like ingame. Hosting a game right now. =)
TA? You mean Tired Annihilation? I got my copy here, but i can't get it to run with spring. Do you have any ideas?
God, would you just let this drop now? You have already made a giant fool of yourself by uploading your mod onto a server where I am admin... You're uploading 8mbs of file every hour just to prove your point, and what a point it is: it is ok to take people's shit if you asked them and they say no!

Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 05:22
by REVENGE
JoseJoas wrote:So come play some TA, Reg. Be glad to show you what your lowly duplicate looks like ingame. Hosting a game right now. =)
Who are you?

Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 05:24
by TheRegisteredOne
REVENGE wrote:
JoseJoas wrote:So come play some TA, Reg. Be glad to show you what your lowly duplicate looks like ingame. Hosting a game right now. =)
Who are you?
Tired
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Can't some mod split this thread? This is going way off topic

Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 06:23
by REVENGE
REVENGE wrote:Somebody explain to me what the fuck anything on this last page has had to do with an OTA clone for Spring?
Self quote, wut nao.

Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 09:18
by Ishach
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Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 09:29
by Lolsquad_Steven
smoth wrote:...funny, I just looked through tireds post history, no posts in my gundam threads...
That\'s because no one has ever played gundam.

Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 09:36
by hunterw
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Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 11:45
by Ishach
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Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 12:14
by KDR_11k
hunterw wrote:but what is 5mug
What you get when you have 6mug and break one.

Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 12:41
by Machiosabre
You all seem to forget to take into account that Tired is in fact, awesome.
I mean a regular person would probably just not take the model or make a whiny post about people not sharing, screw that.

Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 14:42
by 1v0ry_k1ng
Tired sure has alot of time on his hands..

Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 15:56
by MR.D
Tired sure has alot of time on his hands..
Unlike everyone else that is posting about how much they hate Tired.

How about we get back on Topic, this thread is about OTA...

If you guys want to keep being lamers, make a dedicated "I hate tired thread", because if you hadn't noticed, its gettting old..[/quote]
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