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Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 25 Apr 2011, 23:34
by knorke
One flaw I saw in the games I played is that is too easy to win the "expand everywhere, factories on repeat, fight command, GO!" tactic.
Just look at the "active units graphs" of these 2 games:

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(me=yellow in both)

But then I mainly only played vs Razorblade and/or Picasso and maybe they are just better modders then players ;)

I think in theory, good players would counter by killing the con trucks early on with jeeps but in practice I have not seen anybody do it.

So I think it would be interessting to see what balance is like in a match with two equally good* players.
*i only played ~10 games or so myself
So all the lol-pros might think "yeah, lame. some unbalanced crap, i wont play that. ill play when balance is done" but it does not work that way.

And the game really is nicely playable already, the models are decent, there are some new elements (capturing outposts) and there is lots of potential.

So if somebody wants to play, pm me in lobby or forum.

Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 01:29
by PicassoCT
Played this against razorblade, game was fascinating, rewarding long term strategy. Great job, razorblade. Will try to get this played on a LAN instead of CC Generals.



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Rough concept... approval.. disapproval. If you want better moar human stuff, you better contact wombat.

Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 29 Apr 2011, 23:05
by PicassoCT
Go or no Go?

Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 30 Apr 2011, 00:04
by Razorblade
GO

Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 30 Apr 2011, 00:34
by knorke
dont forget teh weapon

Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 30 Apr 2011, 20:13
by Razorblade
v0.014 has been uploaded

Read descr on the site
http://springfiles.com/spring/games/mic ... soundtrack

Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 01 May 2011, 08:24
by PicassoCT
Delivery Service! Knock, knock. Anybody home? Have on soldier here, textured, and ready to beat!

May i suggest a gun design competition, to expand your fanbase?
micronsoldier.sd7
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Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 01 May 2011, 08:49
by knorke
i whip my head back and forth i whip my head back and forth i whip my head back and forth i whip my head back and forth i whip my head back and forth i whip my head back and forth i whip my head back and fo-
oh snap i can't because you forgott to set piece origins so the parts don t know around which point to rotate.
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pick up the head

also team color

Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 01 May 2011, 13:05
by Erik
Cool Tiberian dawn remixes, who made them?

Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 01 May 2011, 13:23
by PicassoCT
PeeWAT is fixed :P
Teamcolour added.

Knorke silenced.

One such critic a day, keeps the journeywar away :D

micronsoldier.sd7
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WTF, this is a first, i never re-released stuff, even the screwed stuff.

Screenshot of the soldier
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Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 01 May 2011, 14:06
by Razorblade
wrong screenie Picasso

Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 01 May 2011, 18:19
by PicassoCT
UPS, sorry, here you go, need way moar coffee to get my brainz into working state..

wtf, guy is completely black.. not black like in coloured, that would be political incorrect, but textured in black... sorry, got to redo that guy, wait a sec.. no naziniggers from hellghastritis

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Sorry again, i usually test what i make (i spawn all my created units, every testgame, on diffrent maps) and your soldier did not went through that process... i inserted him on a snowmap, with exessive light, so didnt notice the flaw- here is the fixxed version. Again, sorry
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Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 02 May 2011, 22:03
by Razorblade
Here is v0.015

not much changed only i removed the soundtrack

I can upload the soundtrack if people want it.

http://springfiles.com/spring/games/micronwars

Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 02 May 2011, 22:24
by PicassoCT
Make it optional, (sound widget of gundam allowed change of volume) and update with rapid, thats should avoid the bandwithbats, vampires that are attracted by sound.

Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 03 May 2011, 08:34
by knorke
with dependencies you can make it so that the soundtrack is a seperate .sdz file.
Then all games version can use it without having to include it.

Have not used myself so not sure how it works in detail, but its something like this:

Basically you make a new mod with just the music in it. (and modinfo.lua i guess)
Then in your games modinfo you do

depend= {
"micronwars_soundtrack"
}

see here http://springrts.com/wiki/Modinfo.lua

Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 04 May 2011, 20:28
by Godde
Some bugs.
Unit centers are set really low. It happens frequently that that units in small holes or behind small ridges can shoot at the enemy while the enemy can't shoot back. Applies to buildings aswell.

Refineries can't be turned off which is annoying if you are stalling on energy.

The weapon minigun01 has 50 tolerance. That means have to aim almost perfectly to fire. Mediummachinegun got 8000 tolerance... My suggestion when you use tolerance that you set it to atleast 300 if not 600. It think it have something to do about how much the aim can be off target and the weapon still fires.

Theres something weird with medium Machinegun turrets. They don't seem to fire at their target at all times.

Suggestion:
Mexes drain 20 energy. Maybe the command building should give like 10-20 or even up to 50 energy so that newbs doesn't stall on energy so badly if they make mexes before Power Plants.

Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 04 May 2011, 21:36
by PicassoCT
Thx for the help Godde, your bugreporteffort is greatly apreciated. Also, im one of those nubs that stalled at the start.

Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 04 May 2011, 21:48
by knorke
its only possible to stall at the start.
just make 1 con.
then 1 powerplant and while the powerplant is building do nothing else.
after that first minute it is like /cheat /nocost

/edit
add a game option for unit cost * metal production multiplicator.
then you can balance it easier.

Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 04 May 2011, 23:59
by Erik
Yea its quite spammy as of now. Basically you can have a Lot of factories pumping out units and killig off enemy mexes/plants isnt rewarding because they are dirt cheap and rebuilt in no time.

I am one of these people that think "less units = more strategy"

Also defenses should perhaps take a very small constant drain on energy, seriously i have seen people build walls with rocket towers.

Re: MicronWars!

Posted: 05 May 2011, 17:43
by Razorblade
Balanced the eco !!
did change the artillerytank to 3 outposts and reduced the damage

Mod is on springfiles http://springfiles.com/spring/games/micronwars