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Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 09:04
by AF
Echo35, like the other people said, there are tabs, but you need to resize the window to see them.
At the moment I wont release untill someone gives me the name of a sans serif font thats on Mac, Linux, and windows, which cant be too hard, afterall all a sans serif font is, is a fony that doesnt have those little ticks and bits on the end like courrier or times new roman have, such as arial/helvetica (I cant use this because helvetica would mess with windows users, and arial with linux)
Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 13:29
by SupaSonic
PauloMorfeo wrote:Those icons make up one godam shiny desktop
Even though it is ..
blah.. gnome.
Which icon set are those? Or did they came with Ubuntu? I am in 6.06, i think, and i don't have those by default.
No, Ubuntu doesn't have it.
You can download them here
http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show. ... tent=27166
As for the font, is it possible to make platform-specific fonts? Like a class that will have some getFont() method which will return different fonts for different platforms?
Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 15:01
by AF
Which would be a nightmare, one that would pursuade me not to bother and make linux user simply put up with it while I chase after windows users, especially with the idea of there not being a single sans serif font that isn't shared by windows and linux alike being such an absurd notion..
Remember, when I started this project my original target audience was windows users, and for a long time the people driving me on and asking when it'd be finished where windows users.
Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 15:12
by Masse
but if you seek for windows users why is this whole thing in under linux thread

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 15:42
by AF
because nobody looks in the game lobby forum, and I changed my mind for a while.
I believe I have a fix for the tabs only appearing once you resize the window issue. My main efforts atm are going into coursework and the whole NTai and nvidia drivers issue.
Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 17:36
by Relative
Why don't you go to a real linux forum for something like redhat or ubuntu and ask about fonts there.
Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 18:22
by AF
I'm not a linux user, it isnt a priority for me, rather its a priority for you, and I'd rather not spend hours trying to deal with a lack of 8800 drivers on current linux distributions or virtual machines that lockup just so I can try out aflobby in linux myself when I have better things to do.
Something as simple as a font that appears in both linux and windows isnt too hard a thing to ask for. If nobodies willing to put forward a name of a font thats probably very very well known then I'm fine with that, it just means linux users kicked themselves in the ass.
I have 3 spring related projects, 4 courseworks, a website, major graphics driver issues, debugging issues, 2 potential spring projects in addition to this, and a rapidly decreasing amount of time within which to do it all in. Forgive me if I dont do something but if it takes longer than an hour to find and the answer is smaller than a 5 word sentence then its not worth the time and effort, I have to prioritize, and the time spent doesnt justify the end result.
Don't spend your time telling me what I should and shouldnt be doing right now. I have enough problems as it is and this isnt as much of a priority at the moment. I apologize for being somewhat blunt, but I dont appreciate rude remarks like that.
Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 19:05
by Masse
i believe that nvidia's linux drivers has 8800
yeah:: Added support for GeForce 8800 GTS and GeForce 8800 GTX boards.
more:: Added initial support for NVIDIA SLI with GeForce 8800, Quadro FX 4600, and Quadro FX 5600
these are from the 2 newest
Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 20:45
by own3d
It seems its on the supported list, its not in any particular order its just in the top lot
Appendix A. Supported NVIDIA Graphics Chips
...
GeForce 8800 GTX 0x0191
GeForce 8800 GTS 0x0193
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/L ... dix-a.html
Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 20:47
by own3d
AF wrote:I'm not a linux user, it isnt a priority for me, rather its a priority for you, and I'd rather not spend hours trying to deal with a lack of 8800 drivers on current linux distributions or virtual machines that lockup just so I can try out aflobby in linux myself when I have better things to do.
Something as simple as a font that appears in both linux and windows isnt too hard a thing to ask for. If nobodies willing to put forward a name of a font thats probably very very well known then I'm fine with that, it just means linux users kicked themselves in the ass.
I have 3 spring related projects, 4 courseworks, a website, major graphics driver issues, debugging issues, 2 potential spring projects in addition to this, and a rapidly decreasing amount of time within which to do it all in. Forgive me if I dont do something but if it takes longer than an hour to find and the answer is smaller than a 5 word sentence then its not worth the time and effort, I have to prioritize, and the time spent doesnt justify the end result.
Don't spend your time telling me what I should and shouldnt be doing right now. I have enough problems as it is and this isnt as much of a priority at the moment. I apologize for being somewhat blunt, but I dont appreciate rude remarks like that.
Just use the font bundled in with spring
luxi.ttf
Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 23:39
by AF
I'm not so sure I know howto write manuals telling linux noobs howto install that font.
As for nvidia drivers, eys I knwo they exist, but whats the use of having them at nvidia.com if the install CDs dont have them? If the installer doesnt have them then the installer cant start X serv which means I cant start the installer program which means I'm stuck with a bash shell with no help data, a cryptic message, and no means of getting help via a second computer. I cant swap gfx cards then install and swap back because I only have the 1 PCI-E gfx card.
And to top that off I've never gotten my wifi working under linux either. I have enough trouble with the existing setup, if you want me to go install linux and spend hours trying to get it to work how I need it, wait till the summer (around august).
Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 23:58
by 10053r
Ubuntu 7.04 will have one click driver install. You could try the beta of that. They supposedly just added that feature. The best part is, that you can see if it works without installing it by just booting off the live cd you can download from
http://www.ubuntu.com. Of course, I think to install the 3d drivers that may require a restart, in which case you may have to actually install it. But you should be able to find out if it is basically compatible with your machine without installing it.
Posted: 09 Mar 2007, 00:02
by AF
I'm taking a short break from AFLobby atm.
And I'm not installing linux.
Posted: 09 Mar 2007, 04:31
by Rudirogdt
AF wrote:I'm not so sure I know howto write manuals telling linux noobs howto install that font.
As for nvidia drivers, eys I knwo they exist, but whats the use of having them at nvidia.com if the install CDs dont have them? If the installer doesnt have them then the installer cant start X serv which means I cant start the installer program which means I'm stuck with a bash shell with no help data, a cryptic message, and no means of getting help via a second computer. I cant swap gfx cards then install and swap back because I only have the 1 PCI-E gfx card.
And to top that off I've never gotten my wifi working under linux either. I have enough trouble with the existing setup, if you want me to go install linux and spend hours trying to get it to work how I need it, wait till the summer (around august).
you cant install nvidia linux driver while x running as far as i remember...
on bash: (you need kernel heads/files kernel.org ) ./NVIDIA....*
and just press ok...
monostream
bitstream vera
are two fonts of kde
Posted: 09 Mar 2007, 06:43
by hollowsoul
u prob could just start and load up vesa driver prob a command option when starting install. After installed then u can install latest nvidia driver
Posted: 09 Mar 2007, 12:16
by AF
I dont know howto install drivers under linux, I figured out howto start X server and reproduce the error via guesswork which I then forgot. Its far too much hassle and it flies directly in the face of my previous post. For one I dont want to even try at the moment, what I've doen sofar has proven it to be too great a hassle tot ry and all these replies I'mg ettign about it arent helping me at all they're just pursuading me even more that linux isnt a good idea atm.
And this unviersity computer doesnt have bitstream vera or monostream, I've not heard of them myself.
Do linux users have lucida sans? tahoma? verdana?
Posted: 09 Mar 2007, 18:40
by own3d
No just include the fonts you want in your package and link to them directly there are no common fonts.
Either that or use "bitstream vera stans" i seem to have that on windows and i know its on linux. You could tell java to use bitstream vera stans on linux and arial or whatever on windows.
Posted: 09 Mar 2007, 22:56
by cowking
PauloMorfeo wrote:Those icons make up one godam shiny desktop
Even though it is ..
blah.. gnome.
Which icon set are those? Or did they came with Ubuntu? I am in 6.06, i think, and i don't have those by default.
If u asked that from me, I'm running beryl + avant window navigator :)
Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 13:33
by Rayden
Hmm AF .. maybe u can help me, i am trying to use your JNI able unitsync but anytime i try to use it, i get an errormessage that the application is not installed properly ... any idea?
I try it this way:
System.load("E:\\Taspring\\BattleBot\\unitsync.dll");
Ok i found out that there was 2 dll's from VS2005 are missing and added them, but i still get the same error ... any help would be appreciated.
Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 21:36
by AF
No just include the fonts you want in your package and link to them directly there are no common fonts.
I am unaware of any Java APIs that allow this, and it would bring up the same issue that I would have if every single component had if linux use this else use that, because there are so many components it would take me a very long time do do them all.
Either that or use "bitstream vera stans" i seem to have that on windows and i know its on linux. You could tell java to use bitstream vera stans on linux and arial or whatever on windows.
bitstream vera sans is an opensource fotn not included in any microsoft product. If you have this font and your running windows there's a 99/100 chance you've installed openoffice or some other opensource program commonly found on a linux distribution. And again, I should have between 200 and 300 individual components to change to use OS dependant fonts.